Building a new growbox

[midwestbluntman]

The Primary goal with this box is to remain looking like furniture.The only other decision ive made about it so far is its going to be in a Hydroponic format,Everything else is open.Im not sure how many growbox growers we have here,but i figure alot of heads are better than one.There isnt a big rush in completion,I have a few months to work on it,and a fairly tight budget.Thats ok tho cause im a cheapbastard and if i can build something im all for it.

Well here are a few pix to toss around some idea's about.I'll get a better photo shoot when i have in a place where it is accessable.



http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2578&stc=1&d=1142181440



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[Messina]

Use the partition on the left for flower cab..
Cut the backs out of the drawers and glue the fronts together making one big draw.
And the top right for propagation...or extractors and filters?

[Jr. Greenthumb]

OK Mid.......

Here are the pics of the door jam you were asking me about. Any questions let me know.

[midwestbluntman]

I'll get in here and edit in a story later i just need to empty the camara.These pix will give ya an idea of where im going with this cabby.

Okay here is the story of a lonely chifirobe cabby sitting in an aution house,Then one evening midwest graced them with his present and was immiditly drawn to the poor cab sitting in the corner by itself.After a long dragged out battle of the bidders,i was prevailent and loaded my 45 dollar cabby in the back of the ole truck.upon reaching the new home the cabby found itself sitting on the porch for a few days in the cold and damp night air.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2578&stc=1&d=1142181440

after a few day I moved it to the utility room for the destruction faze,the images you are about to see may not be suitable for all audiances [veiwer descrition is adviced] some of the footage may not be for the weak stomached.
I first started by ripping her guts out to a bare carcus,and exploring the possibilities of rebuilding her.Stronger, faster,and the ability to grow dank ass hydroponic chronic internally ,we have the technologies.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3541&stc=1&d=1147035289

Here she sat naked and gutted for several weeks while i studied her inside and out,took measurments after measurments and gathered as much data as i could to make this transformation.
At last a break threw,The break i was looking for,I got together some scrape wood from work and made the cab doors and planned out the stratagies of construction.Here are some photo's of the actual crime scene.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3542&stc=1&d=1147036032
This is the Tee brace for the mounting and closure of the doors.Its made of 1X4 milled to 2.50 inches.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3516&stc=1&d=1147016531
Here you can see the doors installed,its going to be a 2 compartment 3 doored entity,repulsive huh.I told ya this wasnt for the squimish,lol.

Next the framing of the lower shelf,This was built of above mentioned milled 1X4 and 1X1 support runners.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3519&stc=1&d=1147016531

I done it this way to hold the water wait of the hydro bubblers.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3520&stc=1&d=1147016531

next the shelf was installed made of 7/16 OSB board,this will also serve as a door stop at the bottom of the double doors,something to attach the weather stripping for air tight light tight seal.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3523&stc=1&d=1147016531

next the upper shelf was installed,This compartment will be a utility room/ cloning chamber.We will cover this more in depth when we get to that part of this story.

Next the bubbler tubs were cut in and set into place for the intake ventilation to be manipulated in
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3525&stc=1&d=1147017025

The 3 holes between the bubblers are the air intakes,they are 2" pvc.I plan to run a 4" exhaust so the intake is abit under rated here and may leave for problems down the road I will have to address that when the time comes as space is very limited.Here are a few more shots of the intakes.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3528&stc=1&d=1147017560

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Well the story stops there for now,stay tuned same bat time same bat chanel for the plumbing of the recirculation system.If time is permitting maybe even the reflectex installation and the cool tube build and installation.

[midwestbluntman]

piccy's


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[Jr. Greenthumb]

Story?????????


Looks like you have a lot of time on your hands and drink too much coffee.... :p


I'm ready to hear what is up here.

Is this going to be a flood and drain type thing?

[midwestbluntman]

There Jr i started the story,its going to be recirculating DWC with an external res.as ya can see im not real far into this project but at least its moving along.

[Cranky]

im watching bro...just dont want to die of old age thats all by the time ya finished...can remember that cupboard 6 months ago like lol.

you know me bro...just fekin with yas.looking great mate...im gonna wait untill its done before i even try to start working out how what works where bla bla bla.

happy building ..

cranky

[tripnoncid]

damn that is looking pretty good MWBM :tup:....I think I am also going to make a new cab...going back to the 250watt....gonna do some hardcore cab growing...Iwant to make a grow cab that doesn't remotly look like one :)
trip

[midwestbluntman]

Trip man
thanks dude ,its taken a while to get this project started but mostly because i dont have a shop to build it in,so i have to wait for momma to go out of town to do any serious work on it.She would have been so proud to come home and air compressor and air tools and saw dust all over the 3 main rooms of the house,lol.the construction was in the dinning room and the air compressor right beside her $1000.00 big screen television,saw dust all over the furniture and the like ya know,lol.Its a good thing she loves me or id be out on arse.

Iwant to make a grow cab that doesn't remotly look like one

man it is fun project,i jusyt wish i had the right tools for the job it would make a big diffrence in the finished product.I think once i get the exterior all sanded down and stained the same color it will look ok.Ive kept the original handles and drawer pulls from the cabby so i can kinda make all look as if it was built back in the day when it was new,hopefully.The original hinges and stuff was so cheesy that i didnt think they would hold up to my fat ass leaning on them admiring the ladies so they are diffrent.

[tripnoncid]

lol MWBM....man I have totally taken over me and the women's bedroom before and totally destroying things...yeah the ladies don't like it too much...but they love the finished product...lol...I think that is why she keeps on letting me do it :D
trip

[Catahoula]

MWBM, it looks like you have been a busy boy lately. no wonder you haven't been posting at TC. Looking good dude. What are the PVC pipes for? I like the folgers buckets, not folgers, just the buckets, in my area we drink Community with the Chickory added.... hehehe Thought of breaking out the cab again and running the 400 but decided to run the 1K in teh room again.... can't wait til the cuttings root & I can get started again.

Good job man. Stay safe over there!

Cat

[midwestbluntman]

Ok DIY'ers
I need some feed back,This is the plan im tossing around what do ya think?will it work or do i need to go back to the drawing board on this.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3592&stc=1&d=1147218702

The idea hear is to run the return line lower than the bubbler,so they will drain completely.I plan to put a ball valve as it exits the cabby so i can turn the returns off and move the cab away from the res if/as needed,same thing on the feeder lines.

[Jr. Greenthumb]

I don't know man..... Just by looking at it, it looks like you may have problems with it all draining back out because the water level of the res.

Maybe drain into another bucket or small box with a pump in it then pump it back into the res.??????????????????????????

I'm just thinking outa my Arss.......

[midwestbluntman]

cat,
Glad to see ya made it here bro.The pvc is 2" and im using them for air intake.What do ya think about the return line delima.my pump is 325gph at 1 foot lift.im hope'n to not be but about 6" of lift.I want a shut off at the cabby to turn all the external water off and the cabby sit and bubble away without losing anything for a while.what im after is the cabby to function during transist as it may sit in the truck for a few hours before it gets unloaded and rehooked up.The move is 2 1/2 hours worth of driving then however long it take to get to the point where i can rehook it and plug it in.

[midwestbluntman]

jr
did ya come to that conclusion by reading or the drawing?reason i ask is because i went back and read what i type and there was room for misunderstanding there,but the piccy is pretty self explanatory.The res will be filled to the filled line of the bubblers,what concerns me with the plan is over or under flowing the bubblers,or not getting any flow at all.Im thinkin as long as the water level in the res is at the full line of the bubblers it shouldnt drain back to the res,unless im thinkin out my arse.Did that sound rude?it wasnt intended that way bro,I appollogize if it did.

[Fred Lemonjello]

Lookin damn good MW!

Funny how the women always seems to notice the little things like dust on the 'Bricka-Brack' and family photos!
"I can tell you've been doing sumthing in here" :mad:
"Why what do you mean Dear? :hmmmm: I dusted!" :rolleyes:
"That's just what I mean.. You've been doing something...:blah: "


:damn: :flog:


Fred

[midwestbluntman]

thanks fred,

Funny how the women always seems to notice the little things like dust on the 'Bricka-Brack' and family photos!
"I can tell you've been doing sumthing in here"
"Why what do you mean Dear? I dusted!"
"That's just what I mean.. You've been doing something... "




ya know,she didnt even say anything.well,she said "your the only one home for 3 days and ya cant even run the vaccum WTF",lmao.little does she know that if she would have came home 4 hours earlier,we could of had a good ole tennessee bitch fest hahaha.

[Shadows]

Nice space you've got going in here MWBM. I like it when guys challenge their selves with something like this. It becomes a win win for everybody involved.

gimmie a bit, gonna reread whats going on, and see if I can lend a hand anywhere along the way. see ya later
Shadows

[midwestbluntman]

Hey ND
glad to see ya pop in bro,you of all peeps will enjoy a good DIY.Well i have raised the bar here,I have DIY'd my cool tube fan.Taken ghettoponic's to a new level of crazy.The cam didnt make it home in time to get photo's before it was installed in the cab so we'll have to deal with that,but here goes.

First up is the top section of the fan.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4197&stc=1&d=1149549154


I built this out of an 8"duct collar,with a 100 cfm range exhaust fan motor,and 2 5"start collars.Im not real sure how bad my engineering messed with the cfm rating on the fan.I have reduced the intake from a 6X6 square to a 5" inline collar,so im sure there will be somewhat of a loss there.Anyone know how to determine the cfm rating of a fan?


http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4198&stc=1&d=1149549154


here is a shot as it enters the flowering area,my plan is to run a short peice of flex from this point to the glass of the tube,maybe 2 ft of flex,prolly alittle less.I want the fan as close to the tube as i can get it and remain light free.Im going to run a 400w HPS in the tube,Im hope'n that this fan will more than cool the light as i want to try and make it the only venti fan in the cab.If it wont, well then there will have to be modifications to the cab to install another.



http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4199&stc=1&d=1149549154




Here is a shot up threw the fan so you can get a look of the fan itself.This fan was originally equipted withan on off switch only,but i want to make it to run on a low speed when the lights are off and a high speed when on.Here is where i need abit of input from the DIY'ers,How would ya'll relay this so it run constant on low but jumps to high at lights on and back to low at lights out?



http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4200&stc=1&d=1149549154


Again this is an experment,this is a kitty scrubber,im quiet concerned with its size and its ability to clean the air as needed.Im going to give it a shot to see if it can hold its own.I want the scrubber inside the cab,so the size is an issue,which is why im try'n this little buger.if it dont work then i guess i'll have another external part which is what im try'n to eleminate.My planm is to mount this on the opposite side of the fan up high and threw the back where from the back of the cab all you will see will be this

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4201&stc=1&d=1149549154


Thats the front of the lil scrubber.Its made from a metal coffee can and a 5" flex duct collar.

Put your thinkin caps on DIY'ers and let me know what ya think of the whole mess.

[Shadows]

Hey MWBM, yeah I love a good DIY thread. I learn a lot of tips and tricks from them..

Heres a few shots of my locks and just how they work to secure the door

The first 2 pictures show what I consider the main lock. Without this one locked, the second one isnt worth a shit. Its purpose is to hold that one side of the cabinet tight, so the other door can lock against it.

The last picture is the cabinet lock. As low key as possible on the outside, imagine what it would look like with a big heavy clasp lock on there, or duel locks at the top and bottom.. This was the only way I could find to do it and have it look possibly from the factory like this.

That kitty litter scrubber will work, but dont expect more then 4 months out of it before you start to smell that skunk walking about. Also, higher humidity reduces its flow, putting more strain on your fan, and increasing its noise.

[Fred Lemonjello]

Love that lock set-up shadows :lock: .... I agree with your philosophy... nice low profile so as to draw attention!

Hey Mid that lil scrubber turned out rather nice... lets hope it does the job!
I know charcoal is more expensive, but would the filtering capabiliteis last longer if it was used in place of cat litter?

Not sure what ta do bout the speed control... but I'll bet Q has a solution fer ya! And you can bet your ass I'll be taking notes on this too! :smoke:


Fred

[Shadows]

oh, forgot about that fan situation. I'll tell ya MWBM, given the option I would have installed a second fan for my cool tube, making it separate from the entire setup. Looking back at a finished cabinet it is alot harder to install now then it would have been from the get go. Know what Im saying?
Put 2 fans in running independently of each other. 1 for the tube, 1 for the box. Attic fan speed controls work on most fan motors I've tried. Dial them in once, and hopefully never mess with it again.


Hey fred, first thanks ,the locks do the job! The litter works good, the biggest issue I have with it is my bedroom now smells like a cat box, albeit a clean cat box its still a friggen catbox. Well actually right now it smells like a cat box that has been sprayed by a skunk cause my litter has gone to the shitter..
I also feel the carbon will have a longer filter life then the litter. I've never done a side by side to judge that one...

[WilliamClarkeQuantrill]

This fan was originally equipted withan on off switch only,but i want to make it to run on a low speed when the lights are off and a high speed when on.Here is where i need abit of input from the DIY'ers,How would ya'll relay this so it run constant on low but jumps to high at lights on and back to low at lights out?



All you ned is a single pole double throw relay and a speed controller. Wire the relay coil in series with the timer contacts, so that when the timer is on/closed the light and relay are energised. With the relay coil energised the normally open contact will close creating an electrical path to the fan motor for high/full speed. When the timer is off/open the light and relay coil are de-energised. With the relay coil de-energised the normally closed contacts are closed and the normally open contact is opened. Now the electrical path to the fan can be directed through a speed controller set to low speed.

I'll attach a quick ladder diagram that should help you see what I mean.http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4222&stc=1&d=1149627886

[midwestbluntman]

Looking back at a finished cabinet it is alot harder to install now then it would have been from the get go. Know what Im saying?

Yea man you are rite,I really should pencil another fan in just in case.I can get one just like that one no problem.The buisness end of this cabby is only 20"DX32"WX30"tall,surely to gawd that one fan should hold its own,but a back up plan cant hurt.

About the locks,
The one you got on the front of yours is the same type i got for mine,but when i built the doors i didnt even concider the possibility that the lock wouldnt be long enough to reach the center support for the doors.I dont know if i left enough room to run the lock in front of the center support and behind the other door and remain light tight.That will prolly put the locking mechinisim in my weather seal for the doors,on both of them.I got one of the old time dead bolts[ya know them ones that you slide from side to side to lock and unlock]Im going to drill into the center support for this one,and the plan was for the cam lock to hook behind the center support.what i need is a vise,and to fabricate my own locking mechinism for the cam lock,decisions decisions WTF to do.Well i got the shop back for a few days so i guess i piddle around with it and see if some magic shoots out my ass.

WCQ
Thanks man,I know what your talking about,nice drawing by the way,lol.I think i have a dpdt relay in my thermostat setup,can i do this with other side of it?cause if the one fan doesnt hold its own then i wont really need the relay,but It's not like i can't find something to relay with it if it comes down to that.I'll have to pick up the speed controller regardless,so looks like a trip to Lowes is in order.

[WilliamClarkeQuantrill]

yup, you just use one set of contacts instead of both. I like the two fan idea better as well. :smokin: