Using blue spectrum to get pollen??

[CezarCronic]

Well I'm making some plans to have a breeding spot or a place to get pollen from males , since i have a small not to tall wardrobe we 're not using , the space is very limited 80cm wide x 80cm tall and 50cm deep , is small so can't use hps in that space .

i have 2 x 110v mercury lamps one is 80w and the other is 150w , this bulbs are cool but blue spectrum , also i can use CF lamps or envirolite bulbs .

In this space i could place male clones and set timer to 12/12 until they unload the pollen , but I'm not sure if using blue spectrum will cause any side effect on the quality of the pollen, i know some people use blue spectrum all the way but they don't get good outcomes in flowering .

Since I'm looking for pollen only maybe will be ok or not ??

Thanks in advance for any opinions on the subject



C.C.:peace:

[Elephunt man]

I only flower with halide .... especially if making seed.

[majestyk5]

i would just throw some cfls in with the male plants cez

[CylonBud]

i would just throw some cfls in with the male plants cez

Yep what I did and it worked great. :D

[Nichiren]

I use a split 1000w lamp in first 5 weeks of flowering 600 HPS 400 blue works great, IMO they grow a bit bigger, then they slide under a a 1000w HPS for the last 3-4 weeks

[tripps]

I don't think mercury vapor would be good.

[CezarCronic]

Elephunt man I only flower with halide .... especially if making seed.

Thanks Elephunt man , before i use Metal halide with hps for flow but i stop and replace the MH for hps all the way , i know mixing spectrum's is great;)


majestyk5 i would just throw some cfls in with the male plants cez

Thanks majestik , i was thinking on using CF if i could , they are very cool lamps :cool:

CylonBud

Yep what I did and it worked great.

Thanks Cylon , what wattage did you use for the male to unload the pollen???


Nichiren I use a split 1000w lamp in first 5 weeks of flowering 600 HPS 400 blue works great, IMO they grow a bit bigger, then they slide under a a 1000w HPS for the last 3-4 weeks


Thanks Nich ;) , i use MH with hps for flow before and works great , my real concern was the light intensity or amount of lumenes in those CF lamps , they work good for veg but flow is different , still I'm just making seeds or getting pollen from them:rolleyes: should work.


tripps I don't think mercury vapor would be good.


Thanks tripps , i think like you too mercury vapor is good for vegging but in this case they do get a bit hot and take lots of space to install because they use igniter and ballast :rolleyes:.


Well then is ok to use CF , i can get up to 100w CF bulbs around here , and i have here in my house about 50 of the 25w type ,

How much wattage should i use for this to work good ???

[CylonBud]

Thanks Cylon , what wattage did you use for the male to unload the pollen???

Well then is ok to use CF , i can get up to 100w CF bulbs around here , and i have here in my house about 50 of the 25w type ,

How much wattage should i use for this to work good ???

I've used actual 125w (500w) to veg my plants and also to flower a male BlueBerry. Worked great in both situations. I also use the 30w actual (100w) and 65w (300w) for veg purposes. I have bulbs in the bright blue (6400K)for veg and the light orange (2700k) for flower.

Here is a pic of the male under the CFL flower bulb:http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15953&d=1214576390

[majestyk5]

flowering a male doesnt take anything. they are easier to grow then a weed. imo
some peeps just take a cutting and stick it in a glass in a window.

[CB]

flowering a male doesnt take anything. they are easier to grow then a weed. imo
some peeps just take a cutting and stick it in a glass in a window.

I agree maj.... once it starts it doesnt care much any more... darkness wont even stop it;)

[majestyk5]

if it ever becomes legal i want to be a pollen farmer
:D

[CezarCronic]

Thanks every body , i appreciate a lot , i 'll make a box maybe bigger them the one i mention , just because i have the wood around the house available ;) , about 1m2 of growth area and i can do 1.5 height and place 2 x 80w CF inside ( Eq=800w aprox ) with one small extractor , passive air intake , white oil paint inside to be able to wash the walls with bleach and water after each pollen extraction or male and female making gingolin :p , one thin i have in mind is to place a filter in the exhaust vent after the extractor to catch any flying pollen in to the air also maybe spray this filter with some lite oil for the pollen to stick on to it and not pass true the filter:rolleyes: i know some filters are pollen prof but they are not available here :(

majestyk5 if it ever becomes legal i want to be a pollen farmer

Majestyk went you do become a pollen farmer i will get the pollen from you bro , this way i don't have to do all this man :D

[Pistol Pete]

Mercury Vapour Lamps Are About The Most Innefficient Choices You Can Make And At Best Can Only Succesfully Root Clones
The Envirolights ( Blue ) Can Be Used , But In My Experience Are Once Again , Inefficient And Are Disposable And Also IME Generate Quite a Bit of Heat
I Have A 9600 Watt Biaxial Fluorescant Light Which Emmits Plenty Of Blue And Is Good For The First 60 CM's Of Growth, Using Two 55 watt 860(Daylight Tubes )
My Last Grow In Canada Consisted Of Three Thousand Watt Halides Under Which Sat Three Four By Four Tables
72 GOD BUD Clones - Zero Veg-12-12
52 Days - 2KG's Of Rock Hard ( And I Mean Rock hard ) Buds :)
Halide ( Blue) May Take A Week Or Two Longer , But Defineatley Cures Fluffy Bud problems
I Also Use A 600 Halide Conversion Lamp
And 250 Halide ( Son T Plus - No added Blue )
T5's And Lightsabres Are Making For 3D Lighting Set Ups ( Sunblasters Have Arrived In The U.K )
Spectrum Reflex .NL Has Awesome Square Meter ( The Big Q ) Fluoro Cages That Produce Impressive Bud
You Can Get A 250 Halide For The Cost of two CFL's, Which Would Be My Choice
My Faves Have To Be Whitefires ( The Most Efficient ? ) From http://www.growthtechnology.com

Or If Allowed To Enter Fantasy Land ; Sulpher Plasma http://www.lifelighttec.com:eek:

Dispose Of Mercury vapour In A Safe Manner:)
PP

[CB]

Mercury Vapour Lamps Are About The Most Innefficient Choices You Can Make And At Best Can Only Succesfully Root Clones
The Envirolights ( Blue ) Can Be Used , But In My Experience Are Once Again , Inefficient And Are Disposable And Also IME Generate Quite a Bit of Heat
I Have A 9600 Watt Biaxial Fluorescant Light Which Emmits Plenty Of Blue And Is Good For The First 60 CM's Of Growth, Using Two 55 watt 860(Daylight Tubes )
My Last Grow In Canada Consisted Of Three Thousand Watt Halides Under Which Sat Three Four By Four Tables
72 GOD BUD Clones - Zero Veg-12-12
52 Days - 2KG's Of Rock Hard ( And I Mean Rock hard ) Buds :)
Halide ( Blue) May Take A Week Or Two Longer , But Defineatley Cures Fluffy Bud problems
I Also Use A 600 Halide Conversion Lamp
And 250 Halide ( Son T Plus - No added Blue )
T5's And Lightsabres Are Making For 3D Lighting Set Ups ( Sunblasters Have Arrived In The U.K )
Spectrum Reflex .NL Has Awesome Square Meter ( The Big Q ) Fluoro Cages That Produce Impressive Bud
You Can Get A 250 Halide For The Cost of two CFL's, Which Would Be My Choice
My Faves Have To Be Whitefires ( The Most Efficient ? ) From http://www.growthtechnology.com

Or If Allowed To Enter Fantasy Land ; Sulpher Plasma http://www.lifelighttec.com:eek:

Dispose Of Mercury vapour In A Safe Manner:)
PP

Think he is just after a place to toss a male to finish:)

[mr. hyde]

flowering a male doesnt take anything. they are easier to grow then a weed. imo
some peeps just take a cutting and stick it in a glass in a window.

collecting pollen can be tricky if you remove your male and drastically decrease lighting. i know someone who uses a 175 mv in his flower room for uv with 2k hps. he's not sure how much it helps trich production/potency but still uses it the last i heard. i think cezar would probably be fine using a mv and/or floros, but the more light the better i think, within reason. i've tried taking a cutting and putting it in a glass of water method and that did not work for me. the male flowers turned brown and died and no pollen. i have also had somewhat limited success removing male and flowering with a small floro light. plenty of times the male flowers turn brown and die. a strong light with consistent dark/light is what i have had the most success with. i have not tried complete darkness at the critical period of pollen readiness. males are easy to grow with lots of light, but difficult to grow with a drastic decrease of light, in my experience. trying to collect pollen in a living room setting has proven difficult for me as well as collecting it flowering it under small floros if they were grown with a lot more light.

[majestyk5]

you might have to let the male flower alittle under alight before you cut it and put it in the window.
i havnt done it myself so i dont know.
i have had good luck with a simple 40wt shop light in a closet with my male. i agree more light would be better, but you gotta pick and chose.
peace and good growing

[CezarCronic]

Thanks a lot Mr Hide and Majestik , i think the same way on more light better performance, so I{m using one 400w hps vertical bulb in 1.5 mt wide x 1.00mt deep :D

Thanks for all the reply , appreciate :)

[Pistol Pete]

Morning CC
If You Can Locate G.I.B ( German ) HPS Bulbs , They Went Down Real Well At Last Years U.K Hemp-Hydro Expo
We Used Them On Our Stand And Were'nt The Only Ones To Notice
Our Stand Also Displayed The £1,200.00 LG Electronics Sulpher Plasma Lamp ( Awesome )
I Also Really Like This Piece of Kit ; A Dimmable HID;)http://www.vb1000.com

Also Never Underestimate The Son T Plus ; It's Still One Of , ( If Not ) The Best Pure HPS Blend HID Bulbs;)
Pete:)

[Cakes]

Mercury Vapour Lamps Are About The Most Innefficient Choices You Can Make And At Best Can Only Succesfully Root Clonesthey were about the only grow lights back when (1970's). and we all know anyone who likes disco has got to be on dope.

some filters are pollen prof prolly medical supply would get you one.

i successfully flowered a bubbkush in the east window but they are non-stretching SOBs.