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Mr Burns
07-09-2008, 04:29 PM
IMO Morgan Tsvangirai did the correct thing in stepping down to reduce the amount of violence against his supporters.
The G8 have done the usual big brother BS and put in trade and financial sanctions. Not enough IMO :(

Mozambique, Malawi, Botswana, Zambia & for heavens above South Africa should be doing more right now. Malawi hasn't the clout that other neighbours have regarding political pressure, but you'd have thought that these countries could make their presence known to the wider world and maybe even cash in a little by making a stand against mugabe? (No capital letters for that bastards name). Also, considering the high percentage of African countries led by military coups, uniquely, Zimbabwe is land locked by democratically elected governments :2cents: (If democracy, governments & Africa can be used in the same text :hmmmm: )

Lets also not forget the ship laden with arms bound for Zimbabwe pre elections (cough) from China that was only turned around by political negotiations between the west and China. I'm not sure what deal was cut with the Chinese but wouldn't it have been more prudent for land locked Zimbabwe's neighbouring countries to have struck a deal with the west in banning the transit of arms to Zimbabwe :shrug: I can only imagine how amused the Chinese government were that a troubled African country with a lit fuse handed them either political clout or a handsome pay day :cheers:

Any thoughts?

larfin1
07-09-2008, 08:45 PM
I can't see anything improving in that part of the world in a hurry.

CB
07-09-2008, 09:38 PM
soz haven't been keep'n up with news in Africa :o

but seeems most news is bad news anymore:mad:

tripps
07-10-2008, 05:47 AM
My uncle spent 15 years in Africa, mostly in the Congo, he can't see any stability ever happening there in our lifetimes, people still have a tribal mentality. That's why these strongmen do so well, that seems to be what a lot of the people actually want, "our chief is the baddest dude in the land" type thinking. He was pretty tight with Mobuto, luckily he was out of the country when Mobuto fell, but he couldn't ever go back, lost almost everything. High rewards=high risks.

Cranky
07-10-2008, 08:34 AM
shoot that fuckin mugabi wabby fooker....the rest of the african nations should of handled it....

aint fully up to date on it bro but that dudes bullied his way through again.

"vote for me or die"

cranks

Mr Burns
07-10-2008, 03:52 PM
I can't see anything improving in that part of the world in a hurry.
Just what the Zimbabwean public are afraid of I think. They'll also be troubled by intervention but know its the only way forward.
soz haven't been keep'n up with news in Africa :o
Were probably more aware because its links with the UK CB. I've met 3 farmers from the country, 2 that were forced out and one woman who seen it coming and left everything behind to save herself and her daughter.

he couldn't ever go back, lost almost everything. High rewards=high risks.
Well you hit the nail on the head tripps. Similar to what happened in Zimbabwe. I can remember the BBC talking live with farmers who were barricaded in their farm houses whilst being attacked by Zimbabweans. Next day the news would tell how some of these white farmers were burnt to death in their own homes, Then the locals take the land back and can't manage to grow a blister let alone a feckin plant.
I must say, kudos to those black Zimbabweans that attempted to defend the white farmers and in return their jobs, as these people too were machete'd, beaten or burnt to death too. What was Zimbabwe doing :shrug: wiping out almost the entire crop workforce but even in hindsight they don't understand they wiped out the very knowledge that the country needed to keep it fed :mad: Assholes. Nope, I take that back. Greedy assholes and now hungry.

shoot that fuckin mugabi wabby fooker....the rest of the african nations should of handled it....

Exactly Cranks 2thumbs They really missed a trick here although its never too late.

Inflation in Zinbabwe is set to hit 1,500,000 % by the end of this year :eek: Compare that to a rough western average of 3.3% and you can get an idea of where the country is going. Every fucker is gonna cross borders and get the fook out, hopefully ;)

BTW, this link is their government website stating their core values on land re-distribution (http://www.lands.gov.zw/corevalues/corevalues.htm) :(

Mr Burns
07-11-2008, 06:13 PM
Russia & China blasted the UN sanctions. Sanctions now invalid.

Good news :D

CB
07-11-2008, 09:08 PM
googled a bit today on this :eek:


some fooked up stuff from what i saw in a few vids :mad:

Mr Burns
07-12-2008, 09:49 AM
Good to see you taking a look CB.

The west is now harping on how Russia and China vetoed the sanctions and although I don't agree with their reasons, what they have done is prevent mugabi from becoming a martyr from western pressure.
Intervention or not there will be civilian deaths and as sad as it sounds I think the whole world should watch and learn what happens in Zimbabwe over the next year.

There's one thing that I truly hope will happen and that's a coup on mugabi. To wake up and hear on the news that he's been toppled, assassinated and removed would be music to my ears. The infrastructure is there to make the country work once again, so hopefully some of his henchmen will be looking at the crippled capital city with thoughts of rescue, rule & regeneration.