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Fillabong
02-04-2006, 07:50 PM
They can appear early in flower like this one I found. Hermies are tricky creatures! One or two pollen sacs in late flower can riddle your plant with a whole pile of little immature seeds. Keep an eye open;)

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1760&stc=1&d=1139107678

Stress is the greatest (if not only) factor that can influence this mutation. The biggie is light interuptions during your night time.

Cel
02-05-2006, 05:01 PM
*shudders*
you know Filla, I'm horrified of the look of a hermie. Looks so out of place.
I've had some terrible experiences with hermies, eventhough they can have their uses (making fem seeds).

Good post and picture that, i at first was rather confused with the looks of hermies myself.

Cel

Jr. Greenthumb
02-05-2006, 10:12 PM
Stress is the greatest (if not only) factor that can influence this mutation. The biggie is light interuptions during your night time.

Well Filla, I am gonna have to dissagree with ya a little here bro. I hate to but I just gotta do it. I believe stress and lighting issues can play a big role in making a plant turn hermie but I really don't think that is the greatest or only. I thihk a lot of the hermies come from genetics myself. Once you start playing with genetics you mess up how a plant "thinks" and I believe that is the biggest producer of hermies. That is just my opinion. Now, I know stress is a huge factor in causing a plant to turn hermie but I think if it were a stable species to begin with it wouldn't turn hermie as quick or often.

Just my 2 cents....


Oh and cel.....

Not just a hermied plants pollen will create a femenized plant. If the seed came from a plant that was a hermie most likely it will be hermie. If you cross that pollen with a female plant chances are you will end up with a higher rate of hermies than female plants. Now, a female plant that was stressed in to being a hermie and then crossed with a female plant is where they get the feminized seeds at. Best way I understand to do it is to attempt to stress a clone from a female plant to ensure it is a true female. You can add stuff to the water/dirt to cause it to hermie or you can mess with the light cycle, put bags over it or limbs to cause it to hermie as well. I guess there needs to be a thread to explain this but I am far from very knowledgable on that subject, I am just a big reader on it and have tried it once but still unsure on the results. I haven't grown the seeds I produced yet.

Fillabong
02-11-2006, 02:37 PM
Then I stand corrected bro:) Would you agree that germinating seeds that came from a hermie have a significantly greater chance of following the footsteps of it's parent?!?

reubeni
03-02-2006, 10:40 AM
[QUOTE=Fillabong]They can appear early in flower like this one I found. Hermies are tricky creatures! One or two pollen sacs in late flower can riddle your plant with a whole pile of little immature seeds. Keep an eye open;)

In my exprience:2cents: lot's of conditions cause shim's P.H temp's,gentetics,R.H and a wrong combination of all these things, but yea when you find them best to get rid of right away unless they come realy late in flower like the pic I have posted below,the bananas showed so late they did not matter.
But even seeded ganga can be very potent all down to survival and genetics:crazysign

witespy
04-05-2006, 02:11 PM
wow that is very hard to see; any one have more pictures, or know where i can get more info on this? Going to make sure that they stay dark during the night time tonight, i think their might be alittle getting in their, but not shinning on the plants. what about moon light in nature? does that mean that alot of the plants that are outside are going to be a hermie?

midwestbluntman
04-05-2006, 03:34 PM
what about moon light in nature? does that mean that alot of the plants that are outside are going to be a hermie?

No bro,I dont remember exact numbers but moon light is very weak in luminas.So the moon light dont effect them like that.

Fillabong
04-06-2006, 08:26 AM
an interesting tidbit about moonlight...

moonlight will not interrupt photosensitive plants like poinsettas or mums.

but...:D moonlight will germinate light dependant seeds like lettuce!

tHEaNIMICnEEDLE
04-06-2006, 12:33 PM
does that mean if i have a green light on in my flower room at dark times that it will not effect my flower cycle?

interesting idea...hm

Jasper
04-06-2006, 01:50 PM
hermies show both sexes, so if a person were to find the little sack before it explodes, just clip it out of there - would it revert to female?

Ok, now - I know that seems strange but check the time. It is pot thirty right now and that question just came to mind.

bald1
04-06-2006, 06:50 PM
Here's a few shots of my last hermi, as you can see this shemale has already spilled the pollen everywhere ;)

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3114&d=1144371027

peace,
bald1.

Fillabong
04-06-2006, 09:41 PM
does that mean if i have a green light on in my flower room at dark times that it will not effect my flower cycle?

interesting idea...hm

so the legend goes...

should you need to enter your room during the dark period use a greenlight to see. plants don't respond to greenlight

nice pic bald1

gorilla
04-10-2006, 01:26 PM
nah, clipping the ball sacks off of a full blown hermie won't do a thing. They'll grow back, and keep coming, and in larger numbers. I tried. =P Got a hermie this time around. Wanted to keep it, but like i said, damned balls kept coming back.

Jasper
04-10-2006, 02:16 PM
have been lucky so far and no hermies, at first it sounded like a crazy question - but if someone has tried clipping them guess it is well worth asking then

CB
04-10-2006, 04:45 PM
been lucky here and no full blown hermies ;)

had a few that just put out like 2-4 sacks and just removed them at that was that.

like gorrila say's tho no chance on a herm like in bald1's pic

AzGrowa
05-04-2006, 07:29 PM
well hate to disagree with senior members. Experiencehas shown forme that light leaks are a hermies best friend.
I've had 2 grows come out heavily seeded because I did't catch a hermie in time. The closet they were in is in a farly well lighted area and has enough gaps between the door and facing to allow light leakage, and I have had upwards of 75-80% showing female during preflower. My next grow will be light-proof come flowertime.
Of courseI can't bitch about the seeds... Cali-O X Medusa.....

billo
05-08-2006, 03:04 AM
i have experienced my 1st hermie
2 x ak 48are both showing herminess
late in flower day46
my other plants in the same room show pure femaleness
it may just be this batch of seeds??

im hoping it dosent effect them 2 much
fingers xed
???will any forthcoming seeds be exclusively female ??????

take care b

Cranky
05-08-2006, 03:13 AM
if ya hermie plant bends ya fems over and gives um agood seeing to then yea...

but as for the hermie..the seeds off that will just do the same...hermie on yas.

ive had my fare share of hermies and i put it down to light leaks...going in the room at lights off etc...i stopped that and aint had any since.

some strains will throw out a few male flowers but towards the end of the flowering period.this is the plant just trying to reproduce itself before it dies.

just keep an eye on um billo and pull off any balls ya see as ya aint got long to go like;)

how are they showing up?big round balls in bunches like in the pic above or skinny banana looking things just here and there?

cranky

reubeni
05-08-2006, 03:18 AM
Yo billo late showing shims are quiet normal as long as they are bananas the pollen will not fall very far and also its a bit late now to form any real seeds if I were you I would just ride it out.
In the past I have seen a lot of ideas on late forming shims some say they produce female seeds some say any hint of shimism should be eradicated I think its just natures way of survival; but never grew a seed from said shim so would not know but smoked the buds and they were very good and strong enough so no great loss;)

reubeni
05-08-2006, 03:31 AM
Here is a pic of a late banana:mad: