Seeds To Clones

[Cranky]

righty ho then peeps,its that time again:D yep,time to get some beans going.as most of you know i ain't been growing now for 6 months for one reason to another but i basically got my own place coming up in the next month or so and would like to have some clones ready for when i do;)

seeds of choice are

bubbleicous

bubbleicous x white chronic

i ain't tried the bb x wc myself yet but i know a man who has and he says it kicks ass so that will do for me;)

the bubbleicous is one of my favs,good all rounder like;)

I'm only germin 3 of each as like i say,I'm only growing these to get a mom of each strain and then ill veg purely to clone the fook out of um.

i will start off with just the 1 cfl(dont even now what watt it is but I'll ad maybe 2 flouros by the time Ive selected my mums to be.

just hope i dont have the same probs as last time i tried germin some beans....only way i could get um to pop was by going straight into soil....:rolleyes:

so,its just the old damp paper towel in a sealed tub which is placed in my airing cupboard ....temps should be stable and fine in there.

will get a temp reading in abit to make sure;)

also throwing this up in here as i wont be finishing but just going over the steps up until I'm ready to move into my new place....then ill get a journal going;)

oooooooooooooh its been to long,I'm all exited like its my first grow again:D

bring it on aye

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1758&stc=1&d=1138978734

cranky

[Shadows]

Hey cranky, good to see ya sittin in the saddle again bro. good luck finding some primo keepers.

[SNAPS]

Yo Crankster me old bean

About fuggin time you germed them beans:p :cool:

[dredank]

Nice pickins cranky2thumbs , i for one have tried that BG x WC, tasty damn smoke, worth a little pain that that strain is, like maybe some duct tape to the:yikes: :eek: ;) :D
:peace:

[highonfire420]

Hey cranky,

Good to see the start up! Looking forward to the upcoming grow.


Keep it green.

[LdyLunatic]

NICE.....can't wait to see those babies popped :o

[CB]

i ain't tried the bb x wc myself yet but i know a man who has and he says it kicks ass so that will do for me;)

indeed it does kick ass :D



oooooooooooooh its been to long,I'm all exited like its my first grow again

I know just what you mean bro.... I was only down about 3 months and felt the same when i started back up.... even planted up some veggies last night and tossed them under the lights:p

good to see ya able to get started on the mums now...

grow on matey

[Cranky]

aye up all;) ,damn fine of yas all to pop in and nice one for the heads up on the "back to growing"....been to bloody long init!

ok to the temps,....been stable all day at 89f or 32c so im happy with the temps in the airing cupboard,,,just case of the old waiting game now...



:rolleyes:

cranky

[Cranky]

what a fekin stoner huh...got me temps all wrong in my head for germin...thought them temps above was fine for some reason,guess its been to long :(

ive moved um into a cupoard in my bedroom now where temps are sitting at 77f or 25c.....seems there starting to pop so all good;)

cranky

[Cranky]

howdy diddly doody peeps,well its been 48hours since i started germin these seeds and out of the 6, 5 are ready to be potted up;)

theres always goto to be 1 that lets the side down huh:rolleyes:


http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1762&stc=1&d=1139144545

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1763&stc=1&d=1139144545

ive got some pots ive just just made up and gave um a good old watering(i like to leave the pots get up to the same temps as what the seed were use to whilst germin.just makes sense like;) )....the soil im using is 100% peat based potting compost,no perlite for now as the soil is that airy anyways ya dont need it just yet.

:grow:

cranky

[Dibbz]

beeb beeb, beeb beeb yeah....................

good on ya lar!!!!

[LdyLunatic]

nice!!!!! can't wait to see these babies grow up :greatjob:

[Cranky]

dibbz,e by gum lad,
nice of yas to drop by...just a sexing thing ya know;)

LL,
watch them you shall ...grow up they wont,as soon as im in me new place ill clone the living shit out of um..thats when the real show starts;)

right,well yesterday was 4th day since i started to germ the seeds.2 days later they went into soil and yesterday..(day 4) all 5 were above soil...i startded out with 6 beans but 1 just didnt want to know...it may well of got above soil but theres no time for slackers here...i want meself a fine pair of mums for me next grow;)

so its,

3 bb x wc( bubbleicous x white chronic )

2 bb ( bubbleicous )


temps are inbetween 75-to 80f,sometimes droping to 70f...alittle cool i know but that should pick up if and when i add a few more flouros;)

crappy pics i know but its real hard for me to get a good pic of the veg cab as its so close to the ceiling and i only have 2.5ft to move back and get um in if ya gets me and my cam needs to be like 3-4 ft away or the pics blur up...

not to worry,i'll get um out for a closer look later when the kids have gone to bed.....

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1837&stc=1&d=1139409622


http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1838&stc=1&d=1139409622
all the breast

cranky

[Cranky]

right, day 2 of veg and i got a couple of pics to compare to the pics above for those that are new to are great hobby to see just what happens in just 2 days.;)

temps are fine now at 75-F;) i just had to close the loft hatch as the temps were on the wee bit chilly side so that sorted that.

Ive topped up the pots and just moistened alittle.(moistened after the pics were taken)

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1884&stc=1&d=1139603295

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1885&stc=1&d=1139603295

cranky

[Cranky]

righty ho then peeps,my cams at me mates untill tomorrow so no pics untill then.

basicly the seedlings are on stop and have been for about 4-5 days now...they've only been watered the once and the water that ran off was yellow as fook.this aint right for soil thats just been watered with plain ol water twice so im gonna take um out of that soil...wash off the roots in a luck warm water and bang um in some soil that i know is ok...

damn blast,first bloody problem ive had with seedlings to...thats what ya get i guess for buying rubish soil:(

back tomorrow and ill show yas what ive done;)

cranky

[Cranky]

ok so,basicly ive dont as i said above....loosened and broke off soil and the soil that was held by what little roots there was i just swoshed about in some luke warn warter until all the soil was removed.

i then potted them up in some fresh soil(((diff brand,not what i normaly use but thought id try it out,just hope i have better luck this time)))moistened them up and washed the leaves down alittle with a fine spray.

been 24 hours now,just goto hope for the best.the root system on um was shocking,would'nt be suprised if one or two of these go.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2054&stc=1&d=1140369582

fingers crossed aye;)

cranky

[SNAPS]

Hope that new soil is better, ive read on another site that "new horizons" is a good soil for MJ..where you get that to and how much was it?

I picked a 35litre bag of soil from asda today.. its multipurpose compost and only cost like £2.. feels a lot better than the last lot i used..time will tell i guess

peace

[Cranky]

tescos bro,buy one ya get one free:D £1.97p for 15L i think.

ive use this stuff before but not on its own like this....ill get some of the pete stuff i normaly use and add that next time i repot.this stuff is to barky just on its own if ya gets me.

(cheap soil mix)
tescos cheap shit
wilckinsons cheap shit
wicks cheap shit
perlite

add them together and ya get a pretty good medium..(((thats my cheap as mix like;) )))

cranky

[Fillabong]

very curious...

new growth is getting hit huh? I'd try one more time.

lots of perlite and equal parts soil/peat

give it a shot of like a 1:2:1 to get them roots goin and things should be ok.

I'm a big fan now of mixing different sources or organic ferts togethen so I KNOW i'll get all my trace:D

[highonfire420]

Hey cranky,

This is not good bro. I like going with a soilless mix I cant remember the brand name but it is Mix #5....peat/perl/wetting agent. I am hoping the bath and trans work for them.


Keep it green.

[Cranky]

baaaaaaaaad me baaaaaaaaaaaad me sorry i aint been updating,,,,

cheers for the replys folks but them babies are in the bin:mad:

that soil killed um dead..

so,this fucking wrecked me head as its the first time ive lost a plant/plants.i went out and got meself a ph meter and did a test on a few soils....the good soils sat at about 6.8- 7.0 and the shit soil was at 6.0 and shot up to 7.0 in 12 hours....:eek:

so,bad mistake useing cheap ass soil.:mad:

i went out and got some of those peat pellets that everyones been screaming about...i just wet um up,plonked the seeds in and most have popped after 5 days.

im likeing these pellets i must say.

will grab some pics in a few.

thanks all

cranky

[Cranky]

fekin twating things started to yellow up on me again...fuck knows why...totally stumped here like.....i was just about to bin the second lot when i thought fuck it.....i repotted um and threw um back uin the cab....


if they make it then they make it...if not wellll..i dont give a shit to be honest..ive done all i can and they still fook up.will just have to wait for me clones that my mates got for me.

also going hydro this week ;) i neeeeed to crop some bud...;)


cranky

[Cranky]

ok..heres a few pics of um when they were yellowing up.....the last one is where it starting to green up again....

like ive said..i repoted um but i bet they yellow up again???

ph of tap water is 7.0 and ph of soil is 6.9.

i gave them a very light feed once and they came bouncing back but then yellowed up again...gave um some more but that didnt do fuck all.

i then flushed all the peat pellets and thats when they started to green up again. so ive repotted them into bigger pots so we will just have to wait and see...

i wouldnt hold ya breath though...kinda lost heart with these fuckers....

cranky

[SNAPS]

hmmm weird that. im using cheapo soil and the only prob im having is building a joint with the sticky icky finished prduct.

what are you using to measure the ph of the soil and water? I hope its not one of those cheapo ph probe things?? they always seem to read 7 i found.:rolleyes:

[Cranky]

yep...cheapo meter.....they all read 7(neutral)..ya have to use a fine sand paper to shine the probe back up after each use bro...

soil out in the garden mesures anywhere form 4.0 to 6.0....all depends on how much the dogs pissed where like so the meter works fine like;)

also i would of thought that the peat pellets would of been fine:rolleyes: ....

fuck knows like

cranky

[SNAPS]

Weird. If it helps focus diy have 56litre bags of miracle grow all purpose growing compost... its 3 bags for £12. Bargain that. I have used almost all 3 bags and all plants including clones and seedlings are doing great.:D

Its prob some city gunk in your water supply??? I know the welsh water is pretty good like.

anyway bro, go hydro. Im building a (90litre)4 plant bubbler this weekend. is only gonna cost me the price of the container as i got a pump and airstones already.

Welcome to waterworld:p

[reubeni]

Well Cranky mate took a look at the pics and the yellowing you have is totaly different from mine ,my plants turned yellow all the way very even across the leaf and the whole leaf whent pale yellow, yours have got yellow hot spots the last time I saw that it was because of rapid fluctuation of ph it went up and down too fast and the plants could not adjust, I fixed it by getting the best soil I could and repotted and left them alone mybe I got lucky
Since you still have very dark green parts on the leaves I think you have a good chance they will recover good luck.

[Cranky]

hmmmmm dont think its the ph like rubeni but ya could be right as i aint to clued up to much on the ph side of things...

right...well..there looking abit better....started to grow alittle but that yellowing is coming back:mad:

looks like lack off food to me but ive fed um and that didnt help plus they should be fine at this stage without any...there should be enough food in the soil like....will leave it another day or 2 and if its getting any worse then ill feed 3 and of um and wont bother with the other 3 to see if that is the prob....
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2702&stc=1&d=1142681691
ph has dropped abit....gone from 6.9 to 6.6....is this much of a change???ive only just got into this ph lark...never had to check it before now like:o

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2703&stc=1&d=1142681679

sorry about the pics again but this cam i got aint worth a tommy tank:rolleyes:


thanks for looking

cranky

[reubeni]

Well Cranky mate them probes are not too accurate you know you realy need to get a digi one like in the pic below cheap on the net/ebay.
As for the drop in ph its a bit fast but it maybe from the feed but you will not be able to tell the feed ph with that probe but 6.6 is not bad well within range,ph is a funny thing sometimes hard to control with preferted soil hope they get better.
I like your idea of only treating half the plants and keeping the other half as a control well tought out:gthumb:

[Cranky]

cheers for the feedback rubeni;) no matter how much you think you know ya still always learning with this cracking hobby of ares;) thats what i love about it...:)


tds meter and ph meter will be here soon....gonna try my hand at dwc like;) cant see the point in growing dwc without these kind of tools....its like driving with a blind fold on:rolleyes: you would end up with shit plants i would guess.

will pop back in a couple of days with an update;)

thanks again for taking the time to reply;) .


take care

cranky

[Cranky]

well...they continued to yellow up and tonight i thought id take alook at ones roots.

what i found was that once the roots had grow out of the peat pellets and into the repotted soil they stopped growing...:mad: this could be a ph thing like reubeni has said but what i do know is that they dont like that soil one bit.

so,ive sparked a few more beans off and have soil on standby that i have used before and had no probs with it.also taken the rest out of that soil and gave um a good flush just to see if i can pull um back round like;)

o'well......shit happens as they say:o heres a pic where ya can see the roots have stopped growing and the others just to show how bad the plants are.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2843&stc=1&d=1143161819

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2844&stc=1&d=1143161819

all the best

cranky

[CB]

been fuck'n about with cheap soil and plants wont grow :rolleyes:

tiss a fine balance at times as just what we do spend on money on.......

been there many times myself M8 ;)

good to see ya got some soil ya know will work indeed

will be watch'n to see how the flush goes for the ones in the pellets..... me thinks they will survive

grow on

[reubeni]

cranky mate dont think much of peat meself it reacts with other stuff too fast and causes hot spots depending on your water ph what do you reckon on the stuff?.
Meself I stay away but"one mans meat is another mans poison" good luck:share:

[Cranky]

cheapo..ya right...i should of just gone and got the beter soil after the first lot started to fuck up....just thught i could bring um back round like but i had no chance in that shit.

reubeni mate the the new soil i have is a peat based soil...have grown many a plant in it and i also find its great for cloning....(still cheap stuff....16 usa bucks for 225 ltrs)

its these barky fukin cheap soils i find are shit...the ones with big lumps of trees and shit in it....had a few of these types and all have let me down.

so,stay away from soils that has lots of drift wood,trees,or fukin boats in it...it will kill your plants.

stay safe

cranky

[War_n_peace]

the ladies? you handle this dilema mate? im sure you have but alls i have to say regardless is stay on the up.....plants can sense the vibes:D dont worrie be happy ....stick to the basics...no more cheapy soil and much love to the gals...shit i wanna start playing music for a grow as an experiment...what doya think?

[Cranky]

lol....well not much change with the messed up ones....oops shhhhhhhhhh they may hear me...dont want to hurt thier feelings:D

as for the new lot well there germin away nicley...been 3 days since i started them now so tomorrow they should be above soil day after latest...

damn bloody soil thats all it was:rolleyes:

cheers for dropping in war;)

stay cool

cranky

[Cranky]

well..i guess this thread was always gonna be this way...yep..im gonna knock this one on the head.moving into my new place on tuesday:D so i aint gonna be growing there untill i sus the place out like;)

thanks to all that dropped by;)

take care

cranky