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Pothead420
04-30-2008, 03:39 PM
im looking for a stable plant does anyone have any experiance with a true breeding plant that has no hermie trait. just name your strain that you have good experiance with im looking for anything with strong genetics something in the sweet family would be better
Most of us only make our own beans we don't buy many. No real point as so many crosses and things are stable if gotten from a reputable breeder...(just cuz they have a company doesn't make them reputable....some of the best beans I've gotten came from just good home breeders that just assume give em away or trade. Not greedy types.
On other forum (can't be named here) I've seen so many breeders post after selling there beans (possible light leak so be gentle or they will hermie)...seed biz is a crap shoot IME.
The only true breeding strain is one you tested yourself and know to be true. IMO
Wonky
05-10-2008, 03:31 AM
I know that sour diesel is a organic strain of bud if you can find any and know where ya gettin it
I know that sour diesel is a organic strain of bud
what do you mean an organic strain :confused
Even Crazier Van Guy
05-19-2008, 09:32 PM
Wonky.... shhhhhh :p lol ... s'all kewl, mang... :cool:
from what I've think, pot, skunk is a good base strain to start with... straight up, or crossing... IMO
Wonky
05-20-2008, 01:43 AM
I mean that its a strain that was found out in the wild, Its not a hybrid at all if you can find true sour diesel seeds and not NYC diesel etc.
I mean that its a strain that was found out in the wild, Its not a hybrid at all if you can find true sour diesel seeds and not NYC diesel etc.
..morning wonky.. sorry, but I think that you have been mis-lead, or mis-informed. "Organics" has nothing to do with what type or kind of strain it is. It only referrs to a method of growing.
A strain found growing in the wild, free from human intervention/selection,that has acclimated itself to the area over decades, is called a "Land Race".
Any "Deisel" is neither. It is a hybrid, developed over time by a breeder or breeders, selectively choosing the traits and chracteristics desired, and making crosses that promote them.
The problem is, if you make seeds with 'most' of the "so called" stable strains of today, the phenos will, quite often, be all over the board, or "unstable"...IMO and experiences.
pothead, for a stable breeding base, I would suggest as CVG did, a reputable breeders 'skunk' or possibly dj's blueberry' as a cornerstone for a project.
Even Crazier Van Guy
05-20-2008, 08:01 AM
Ya... I was gunna suggest DJ Short's Blueberry as well, but only 'cause that's "what I heard"... that it's a stable base strain to start with... hey Dawg?... what'dya think? ;)
the Sensi Skunk I have currently, even though it should be a good strain, has displayed irregularities over mere cloning carry-overs... I have a verrigation irregularity that has popped up in only a two generations... and only in 2 plants... in 1 quadrant of the plant :eek: ( one quarter of the circumference... and ONLY in that 0-90 degrees ! ... totally kewl)
even the most "stable" plants will have irregularities pop up... it's just nature, but ya... I would stick with a Skunk or DJ Blueberry to start crossing with, at any rate....
IMO, a few "displayed irregularities" over multiple generations, can be dealt with. I think you're probably going to find that in ANY strain. If nothing more than recessive characteristics that will popup and express themselves ever so often.
Quite often, the initial X of any two semi-stable "strains" will produce a relatively uniform generation. (F1 hybrids) They will usually be quite robust and show vigorous growth nd production. They call it "hybrid vigor". It is the 2nd generation(F2), IME, that will usually reflect many recessive and/or codominate characteristics of their ancesters.
A strain found growing in the wild, free from human intervention/selection,that has acclimated itself to the area over decades, is called a "Land Race".
Any "Deisel" is neither. It is a hybrid, developed over time by a breeder or breeders, selectively choosing the traits and chracteristics desired, and making crosses that promote them.
The problem is, if you make seeds with 'most' of the "so called" stable strains of today, the phenos will, quite often, be all over the board, or "unstable"...IMO and experiences.
man don't get E-man in here on the subject of a true land race strain :D j/k hope he stops in :cool:
pretty much what i would have posted as well EASY, dj's blueberry IMO is a great corner stone and very easy to grow. my bubbleberry is a cross of blueberry with bubblegum :mmmm:
also have tried sk1 and have some cross's of it in flower now..will get an odd pheno at time's with the 2 but like you said easy to work out down the road;)
grow on
Wonky
05-20-2008, 08:50 PM
Alright but by organic I meant "land race", never heard that term before.
I know what organic gardenin is.
A strain found growing in the wild, free from human intervention/selection,that has acclimated itself to the area over decades, is called a "Land Race".
Any "Deisel" is neither. It is a hybrid, developed over time by a breeder or breeders, selectively choosing the traits and chracteristics desired, and making crosses that promote them.
The problem is, if you make seeds with 'most' of the "so called" stable strains of today, the phenos will, quite often, be all over the board, or "unstable"...IMO and experiences.
man don't get E-man in here on the subject of a true land race strain :D j/k hope he stops in :cool:
pretty much what i would have posted as well EASY, dj's blueberry IMO is a great corner stone and very easy to grow. my bubbleberry is a cross of blueberry with bubblegum :mmmm:
also have tried sk1 and have some cross's of it in flower now..will get an odd pheno at time's with the 2 but like you said easy to work out down the road;)
grow on
....:eek: Ha!.. "Land race, true breeding, heredity, pedigree, preservation, ect.", I've seen some heated discussions. I don't buy into them anymore ;) I've resigned myself to simple crossbreeding, and searching for an exceptional pheno for a donor. I consider myself a seed maker, NOT a 'breeder'. :cool:
majestyk5
05-21-2008, 10:17 AM
sounds like you would have to travel back in time to find a true strain.