View Full Version : DIESEL BREAKDOWN
Pothead420
03-27-2008, 03:00 PM
not my writeings
i write this hopping to clear up the mass confusion surrounding the diesel lineage. ive gotten the real storie threw the actual folks resposible for diesel, so here goes diesel comes from a seed found in a bag of insanely delicious colorado indica known as chem/dawg two friends met on a dead tour in '91 and a pound containing 12 seeds of the majestic chem/dawg whose lineage is still somewhat of a mtstery, made its way to massachusetts. as for the father of those seeds, this is also somewhat of a mystery. this much is known the person who had the chem/dawg in colorado grew only chem/dawg, so it was probably a chem/dawg male or hermaphrodite that fathered the seeds. the seeds found in this legandary bag of herb were grown and from them came some truly phenominal ganja. at this point another good friend was met at a phish tour and clones of this awsome chem/dawg offspring passed on to this lucky new friend. the new grower in new york city didnt like the name chem/dawg so he started calling it diesel this is the diesel some of us are lucky to love. a couple of years later, a super skunk x sensi northerm lights was crossed with the newly named diesel and thus was created headband, daywrecker diesel, and diesel#1. soon after that, a hermaphroditic massachusetts super skunk pollinated the diesel and from the seeds it created, sour diesel was born. then theres OG kush whicht is a sister to sour diesel. the origanal mass chem/dawg family has made sevaral newer crosses and they are featured here. lastly, for good reason, i'll mention somas nycd
which barely if at all resembles the real diesel it has more citrusy flavor and is much weaker than the real diesel so the moral of the storie is if your reserching strains find the one who made it
good info if it's right :)
not to hip about the use of hermie pollen in the strain tho :mad:
it will surface it's ugly head sooner or later "IMO"
been down that road :damn: never again here;)
:pass:
Sticky_Budz
03-27-2008, 08:32 PM
:hmmmm::pass:
Even Crazier Van Guy
03-27-2008, 08:46 PM
no shit... why would you WANT to introduce a defect into your strain??
Sticky_Budz
03-27-2008, 08:50 PM
no shit... why would you WANT to introduce a defect into your strain??You know i was thinking the same thing that soon or latter it will haunt you;)
Cakes
09-21-2008, 12:55 AM
Godbud had trouble feminizing but it's taste is way superior on the level that the NYCD is.
not my writeings
i write this hopping to clear up the mass confusion surrounding the diesel lineage. ive gotten the real storie threw the actual folks resposible for diesel, so here goes diesel comes from a seed found in a bag of insanely delicious colorado indica known as chem/dawg two friends met on a dead tour in '91 and a pound containing 12 seeds of the majestic chem/dawg whose lineage is still somewhat of a mtstery, made its way to massachusetts. as for the father of those seeds, this is also somewhat of a mystery. this much is known the person who had the chem/dawg in colorado grew only chem/dawg, so it was probably a chem/dawg male or hermaphrodite that fathered the seeds. the seeds found in this legandary bag of herb were grown and from them came some truly phenominal ganja. at this point another good friend was met at a phish tour and clones of this awsome chem/dawg offspring passed on to this lucky new friend. the new grower in new york city didnt like the name chem/dawg so he started calling it diesel this is the diesel some of us are lucky to love. a couple of years later, a super skunk x sensi northerm lights was crossed with the newly named diesel and thus was created headband, daywrecker diesel, and diesel#1. soon after that, a hermaphroditic massachusetts super skunk pollinated the diesel and from the seeds it created, sour diesel was born. then theres OG kush whicht is a sister to sour diesel. the origanal mass chem/dawg family has made sevaral newer crosses and they are featured here. lastly, for good reason, i'll mention somas nycd
which barely if at all resembles the real diesel it has more citrusy flavor and is much weaker than the real diesel so the moral of the storie is if your reserching strains find the one who made it
....Soooo, .. "that's" all there is to it?.. ya' find a seed in a pound of weed, allow it to be pollinated by a hybrid,( a super skunk x sensi northerm lights was crossed with the newly named diesel and.) give it a name,( thus was created headband, daywrecker diesel, and diesel#1) and .."market" it.. poof you're rich 'n famous.. :idea: How kool is that! ;)
Shadows
09-22-2008, 07:55 AM
....Soooo, .. "that's" all there is to it?.. ya' find a seed in a pound of weed, allow it to be pollinated by a hybrid,( a super skunk x sensi northerm lights was crossed with the newly named diesel and.) give it a name,( thus was created headband, daywrecker diesel, and diesel#1) and .."market" it.. poof you're rich 'n famous.. :idea: How kool is that! ;)
It used to be said about Nirvana seeds F2 a lot, but you just never know when you'll find that Holy Grail of weed, or what situations will surround it when you finally do. I've grown a Chemdawg X sourdiesel denoted plant before and can say its easy to see why the hermie fact was over looked, it is an amazing bud. Flavor and high are superb and the yield is top notch with heavy buds.
Massproducer
11-28-2008, 02:00 AM
good info but a few things are a little of to my understanding... Here is the story as I know it
Brief background:
At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.
In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'. Chemdog still has two seeds left in his stash.
Chemdawg Crosses:
• 'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.
• 'Sour Diesel' aka ECSD came from an accidental cross of ('91 Chemdawg x Mass Super Skunk/NL)x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is NL/Shiva x Hawaiian.
• Original Diesel' (also known as Diesel #1, Headband, Daywrecker Diesel, Underdawg) came from a cross of '91 Chemdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x Sensi's Northern Lights) done by a guy known as ‘weasel’.
• 'chemdog' and friends made several crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are:
1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)
JJ-NYC has been working on a Chemdawg D-based seed line for several years now. He started by crossing Chemdawg D to Sensi's Afghani after thoroughly testing both Sensi's Afghani and Sensi's Hindu Kush to determine which was more stable and would be better for the initial cross. JJ then did a backcross, known as "Double Dawg." Several phenos of this circulate and several people still have beans. JJ's latest work to the line is a second backcross known as "Tres Dawg" which is just starting to get tested.
Rezdog of Reservoir Seeds recently released several Chemdawg crosses as part of his 'Trinity' charity auctions. The crosses included Chemdawg D x Sensi's Hindu Kush and Snowdawg x Sensi's Hindu Kush, Chemdawg D x Sour Diesel IBL, Snowdawg x Sour Diesel IBL, ChemHaze x Sour Diesel IBL and Giesel x Sour Diesel IBL.
This is not my info but info from another place
Massproducer
11-28-2008, 02:04 AM
Also NYCD or New York City Diesel and East Coast Diesel have nothing in common, NYCD is Soma's version of diesel, but it doesn't have anything to do with the actual diesel line... Og Kush has a lot more in common with diesel then NYC diesel does, go figure, lol
Another funny tibbit in this crazy topic is the fact that OG kush has nothing to do with Kush, except that it smells like a kush, but it has no ancestory to kush, and is nothing like hindu kush in any way, except the smell... Marketing