How long CAN you veg your plants.

[Permagrin]

I have read a ton, but haven't noticed anyone ever saying that you could potentially grow these plants in a vegetative light forever.

I was wondering if you had the plant in perfect soil conditions and didn't allow it to go to flowering light times would the plant just keep growing in a vegatative state and make a friggin tree, or will the plant eventually just go into a crappy type of flowering stage from age of plant?

I can just imagine a 20 foot tall by 10 foot wide plant going into a flowering stage. I mean youd have to grow the stuff in a friggin airplane hanger, but wow. :) I am guessing that this would probably make for some crappy bud maybe, but I am just basing that guess on bad odds in life. ;)

[midwestbluntman]

I dont know,ive not heard of anyone letting them go indefinitly.That kinda defeat our purpose or goal.It would be a neat experment just to see how long it would grow.purhaps in a horizional trelles similar to the screen of green,but forever is a long time.If it grew 8 ft a year 20 yrs it would be 160 ft long,lol that would take an alot of lights to keep it from flowering.

I have heard folks talk about haveing a mother for over 5 years.


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[gorilla]

People can keep mother plants for many years. The best way to do this would be to heavily trim/train a plant to fit your light source, though; not just letting it grow it's own way.

I think it would probably start to preflower and thats about it, depending on strain.

[Permagrin]

When I used to live in AZ I had a pepper plant that I kept alive for like 5 years or so. I actually had to start trimming the thing like a hedge cuz it was right by the front door and it would grow like crazy.

Hot ass peppers to boot. I couldn't even eat them, and I like hot stuff. These were little bastards that would singe your ass hairs when you tried to shit em out. :)

We didn't have to worry bout frost damage there though, so its a whole different monster here.

[Dawg]

I know for long term mothers they typically bonzai them by pruning and trimming the roots to keep them at a managable level. I read that they can stay indefinetley but like the others said, you don't read of them much more than 5 years. I think that age would get the better of them over time. Like anything else it has to come to an end at some time and the qualities would deterioate during the process what ever the amount of time it would take. Everything ages. IMHO.

[The Hooded Claw]

To quote:

"Botanically, an annual plant is a plant that usually germinates, flowers and dies in one year. True annuals will only live longer than a year if they are prevented from setting seed."

That's what we all know and we also understand that extending the veg period under controlled conditions is possible, however, we must remember that it is the plants intention to see out the 3 seasons and expect each to follow in a timely order, spring, summer and autumn. We can and do manipulate plants to the mid summers light period of 18/6 but my own belief is that the plant will eventually give up and flower to whatever sex be it any of the three.

I've had long term moms as some have seen, but you'll also notice my yields decreased. This is why I'm taking a new approach to growing and using new seed stock for each grow.

[astra]

never been to cambodia eh? we are used to north american strains and we like indicas. i've seen with my own eyes a 70' plant/tree with 6' long seeded bud sacks. probably 30 years old. this is the same in africa. the climate is what; including the light, that makes the grow lenght of the plant. my buddy has a THAI clone MOM that is 7 years old.

most of us flower the seed mother to get the best clone pheno's. but i have a original CRUSH plant that im going to take a clone from and sex it. if it proves a male then i will use the pollen on my inside plants and isolate him with selected other strain females outside this year for hybrid seed. thinking white russian and flo, maybe bubblegum! if she proves a female then im going to keep her indoor and we will plan something for the future.

hope this answers some of the question. in part then depending on the produced environment the cannabis IS NOT an annual.

[Elephunt man]

I have read a ton, but haven't noticed anyone ever saying that you could potentially grow these plants in a vegetative light forever.

I was wondering if you had the plant in perfect soil conditions and didn't allow it to go to flowering light times would the plant just keep growing in a vegatative state and make a friggin tree, or will the plant eventually just go into a crappy type of flowering stage from age of plant?

I can just imagine a 20 foot tall by 10 foot wide plant going into a flowering stage. I mean youd have to grow the stuff in a friggin airplane hanger, but wow. :) I am guessing that this would probably make for some crappy bud maybe, but I am just basing that guess on bad odds in life. ;)

Just for fun thought I would point out that Vietnamese can hit 30' tall in one season. :eek:

Have also heard talk of a 10+ year old mom 'high times' had something to do with.

Had a strong sativa refuse to preflower for me after 6 months of 16/8.

Wonderful special weeds. :cool:

[Dawg]

Astra are talking about an outdoor plant that revegged (naturally) outdoors every year for 30 yrs? or an indoor plant with extended veg period?

[CB]

i've seen with my own eyes a 70' plant/tree with 6' long seeded bud sacks. probably 30 years old.

did ya happen to get a few pics of this beast? I know i would have ton's of em if I saw it:eek:

and how big was the base on this plant?

[Mr. Bud]

I spent some time in the Philippines. We found a gold mine of pot there... One day this girl asked if we wanted to get stoned... We were like, hell ya.. She pulls out a shoe box full of huge buds. We were speachless... She said that it grows in the jungle and all you have to do is cut the buds off. Now me not being a huge snake fan, we made a deal with her that we would give her $5 for a shoe box full of bud.. She jumped up, ran out the door and about an hour later she came back with two full shoe boxes and wanted her $10. My buddy purchased a candle that was about 8 inches thru the middle. He cut the bottom off with a hot knife, gutted the candle out, packed the pot in it and melted the bottom back on... The next day it was mailed to his brother in the States.. Now I didn't get involved in that part of it but I sure like the shoe box full of pot for only $5 bucks...
The buds were so big that they actually were cut on each end and they could only fit 3 to 4 buds in a box.. The smoke was high but not real high, for the price I wasn't complaining though..
My point here is that it grew wild in the jungle... I guess that was the long way to the point.. Sorry, you know how it can be sometimes.. :bong:

[astra]

the base of that sucker was in water, swamp water with those THINGS slithterring around in it. what i was told was certain 1's will seed and then go dormant for several years before seeding again. and vietnam = the delat and these can grow tall and not die after budding. the african video from a buddy; the marijuana looked like trees. and i've seen the giant bushes taller then a man at afropips. i dont know about re-veg but i know you can keep moms in veg room for years AND NOT effect quality. i had the blueberry SATIVA for 8 years. lost it about 6 years ago in the pure form. dj shorts original hybrid. but most of the hybrids here are bred for the north american climate and annual season.

[CB]

the base of that sucker was in water, swamp water

some wild hydro action there :eek: any pics of the beast?

[astra]

sorry CB it was back when i was a teen and i had a rifle in my hands and alot of other things on my mind. i have some plants at 18 weeks of veg. some have shown sev and then gone back to veg.

[Even Crazier Van Guy]

that is... if I can recall what I was thinking about at first... gimme a sec... work'n on it... ... ... oh ya... vegging...

well... my mothers I kept going for 9 or 10 months in veg... super tight internodal separation... trust me... cuz the plant has like 5-7 inch alternating branching spacing under the 400W HM... like we are talking less than an inch.

bur... whatever... I'm looped... :p

oh yeah... I was gunna say that I believe the internodal spacing was so close together cuz I vegged it under BARE MINIMAL lighting conditions (4 40w cool white florescent 4' fixtures for a 12 sq foot grow area)

later

[astra]

yup a breeder friend told me that once. he said the plant needs 50w to veg and 80w to flower, if you do more then that the growth will slaken. good post