Water Curing ?

[XzoomD]

I have been seeing somew reference to water curing and wondered if anyone has any experience or info about it?

So far this is what I have..altho it seems like every reference seems to have a different timeline..from soaking them for two to seven days while gently changing the water daily..but another that made sense to me was...soak them until after 24 hrs the water is still clear...a note here~ I did not go on one of those fanatical searches but did google 'water curing cannabis' and 'water curing marijuana' but did not find a start to finish thing on it or anything that went into any depth..so rather than consume my saturday night toking and fanatically searching/reading about something that appears like it might work, I thought I would first ask you fine people if you knew anything about it?...and if not..ten heads are better than one. :D ..and we can check it out together. On the surface it makes a lot of sense to me...I think I remember a conversation with what I call 'the upper level guys' where the jargon was beyond me and there was reference to soaking a harvested plant in water to get the chlorophyll and any N out ??..but when these guys started throwing lightening bolts and shit..I didn't pay too much attention..or couldn't if I wanted too...until I started seeing it surface again...so....??

:peace:

[CB]

davep water cure's ;)

maybe he will respond......

if not PM him as he doesnt get out much but has some good info on this

[AzGrowa]

hey X
I remember seeing something on HC.com and water-curing, may wanna do a search in the Hravest/dry/cure forum over there.
From what I gather water curin blanches the nutes and chlorophyll from plant material, which results in a smoother, less harsh smoke.
I forget tha actual process and how long it takes, and I believe this was how Acapulco Gold was cured. Could be wrong, but such a pale gold color I find it hard to believe that just growing conditions contributed to the overall gold color of the product.

[XzoomD]

Thx CB..done. 2thumbs

Hey AG,...:D

I did find this so far...

Water Cure
Unlike other curing methods, the water cure is performed after the marijuana is dried. Powder and small pieces are most often used, but the cure also works with whole colas. The material is piled loosely in a glass or ceramic pot which is filled with luke-warm water. (When hot water is used, some of the THC is released in oils, which escape and float to the top of the water.) Within a few hours many of the non-psychoactive water-soluble substances dissolve. An occasional gentle stirring speeds the process. The water is changed and the process repeated. Then the grass is dried again for smoking.
THC is not water-soluble; so it remains on the plant when it is soaked. By eliminating water-soluble substances (pigments, proteins, sugars, and some resins), which may make up 25 percent of the plant material by weight, this cure may increase the concentration of THC by up to a third.
Marijuana cured by this method has a dark, almost black colour, and looks twisted and curled, something like tea leaves. The water cure is frequently used to cure dried fan leaves and poor-quality grass.

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[milagro]

Hmmmmm. :confused



milagro

[Shadows]

Get that PPM meter out XzoomD-y, and take daily measurements of the PPM before and after changing out the water. The first 3 days should show a rise daily as the dry plant material slowly becomes fully saturated. After the peak on day 3 (which could be as much as 700ppm over your waters starting point) you should start to notice a daily decline. A PPM change of less then 150 means its time to dry it out.

You'll also notice that drying it after this process is faster by about 2 days, hard to believe but be on the look out for it.

Most of what I've read says that it does affect the taste. Some say its negative, others say its positive. I'd assume its all dependant on what you start with. Like a Skunk bud may get more flavorful with water cure, and a Blueberry bud will have its fruity taste mudded up a bit.

I've only tried it 1 time on a very tiny piece of bud. It damn sure didnt seem more potent, but the harshness from overnuting was gone. Flavor was slightly tainted but sample size may have reduced the amount of crap mixing into the plants flavor.

[XzoomD]

Me too, Milagro :D

shdws..thx for the info...just curious...how and why did you come to try this water cure?
aaand why is there so little info on it...I have found everything from flushing out the human body to torture :eek: ..but very little on water curing marijuana....and what I do find does not tell me any exact procedure...the thc thing is mixed...but about at least half say there is a concentrated thc...I dunno ????

:peace:

[Shadows]

Overgrow. They have/had a few articles on it at 1 time.

What gets me is the concentrated THC. The only way I can see how this relates would be that now, after the water curing, you've removed alot of the contaminates that would affect the THC concentration percentage. As you remove them, their % drops causing THC % to rise, while never really changing. ya know?

There are some faults in the procedures I've seen as well. The most significant is the dryness of the buds used. Some chop and drop the buds right into the water, while others dry their buds completly then toss in the water.
Another thing is temperature of the water. Starting with luke warm water or cold water depending on the person.

Memory of what I've read is this
Step 1 - Chop your buds and allow to dry fully
Step 2 - Place buds in water and add weight so they come to rest underwater (I do not believe a ratio of bud to water has ever been established)
Step 3- After 24 hours take PPM reading and change out water
Step 4- Take PPM reading after 12 hours. If the increase more then 500 change out the water.
Repeat steps 3 and 4 until the change in PPM is less then 150.
Step 5 - remove the buds and hang to dry
Step 6 - Watch the buds carefully because they will dry faster
Step 7 - Buds should have that long cure effect when smoked, without the long cure.

[Shadows]

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?t=555115

[XzoomD]

Ha!..I went to hc.com and found the link to OG you just posted..I was just about to post it....by far the best thread I have seen...and will definately be trying it soon...shdws...Kudos!!

I will.. be using a whole bud btw..maybe a week or two..maybe sooner..stay tuned

btw..in the hc.com thread ole dood says to use cold water..that I know is wrong...must be room temp or luke warm..but not warm enough to release the thc into the water..where it should float if the water is too warm..what is it..200F?..somewhere around there.

thx shdws 2thumbs :D

[Shadows]

hmm?? I dunno. I thought THC wasnt released until the temps went over 300 deg, but maybe that is relating to vaporizing the bud?

but hey, what goods it gonna do you and your sences to water cure bud, when you can barely taste it anyway?? haha, just messing bro

[XzoomD]

Okay 'link-fairy'..lolol j/k :p

well..why not leach all the water soluable nasties if you can?..and I'm still not clear on the concetrated thc thing..but supposedly the smoke is much smoother and the high has been said to be overwhelming..guess we will see in the near future, huh?

but if you boil bud..the thc will be released..if I'm not mistaken?

[Shadows]

well..why not leach all the water soluable nasties if you can?..

I think if you search OG enough, you'll see that this is part of the arguement. The guys against said water curing removed excess nutrients from your plants (why the PPM increases) and that it wasnt necessary if you flushed/leached the plant properly. Those in favor of a water cure said it didnt matter what bud you used, it made it better. so uh, yeah lol, your call

Im not willing to do that boil a bud thing bro, its yours!

[dredank]

would boiling out the THC, straining through coffee filter and then cooling down the water and drinking it be any good:confused
sounds like a way to make some bud tea2thumbs
:peace:

[XzoomD]

dre..nah..the tea would actually be the nasties..been there..and don't want to go back soon lol

there is a friend that heats water until the thc floats..like not quite a boil..he heats it...then lets it cool some..repeats ect..but don't remember how he extracts the thc from the water..next time I talk to him I will ask and post...but is like a thc extract..I believe..don't quote me yet tho.

shdws..yea..but like most new things in the mj community..ppl tend to condenm what they do not understand..resembles a witch-hunt lol...but time will tell I suppose.
but I'm really surprised there isn't more about it...b/c on the surface..it appears it would make for some really primo smoking pleasure..??

[dredank]

I too have had some really nasty tea from a medical club a while back:yack: , they were giving away cups at the door:p I didnt know how they made it though, tasted so shitty i dont what anyone was thinking drinking it.:crazysign

I only drank about inch down fom the cup, i tried to drink more but itwas too sick. I left it in my fridge and it spilled onto a roomates steak:laugh: he was marinating it below, and it marinated in that tea for aboat a day:eek: . he ate the steak, and said it has a nice flavor to it:hmmmm: I dont think it got him any high though.
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[XzoomD]

LMFAO!!!..hahgaha!

[XzoomD]

haha..okay..talked to the grower that heats his stuff...he uses it to get the nasties out before he makes brownies..but the water cure interested him and he may try it...he prolly won't make it here..but will give me his opinion,I'm sure..he is my 'go to guy' so I trust his judgement..

I may try this tonite..maybe keep it in veg so temps don't drop...but to be honest...putting bud in water that took me 4 mos to grow ..hmm..'tentative' comes to mind ..to say the least. :D

[AzGrowa]

well sounds like water curing is more about turning clippings and kif into more desirable smoke.
Think about it, by reducing the chlorophyll and plant mass by 70-80% brings even schwagg into the realm of "decent" smoke. Sure you wind up with less weight, but better tasting (less harsh) smoke.
Ok so smoke the water cured schwagg with some of your less desirable moochin friends and save the good stuf for yourself.

[XzoomD]

hahaha

I wonder if it would work on my clippings I save to make hash?...may be medicine when the stash gets low and kliptomania surfaces...might save some buds from an early clip.

No guts , no glory...but then again my glory daze are over. :D

I think I'm going to wait until after the holidaze and pick up a dehydrator first...and in the mean time find out w/e else I can about it.

:peace:

[milagro]

No guts , no glory...but then again my glory daze are over. :D

:peace:


Over?!

Ya big lug! They ought to be just starting.:cool:

This is a really interesting subject. I am definately going to give this a try when I get some time.

I have been inundated recently but see the light at the end of the tunnel. Next week I have some time and surely plenty of buds to donate to the cause of higher education. :D

Thanks for all the research.2thumbs Where's Dave?



milagro

[XzoomD]

Milagro...ssssh..the wife may see this and prompt me to get up off my ass and actually do something!! :eek: :D

believe it or not..I'm getting a new boiler ..hopefully sooner than later..my aqua stat went out and a friend came over and said I should just have a new one installed..along with a new chimney liner...so I'm doing the modern day pioneer thing with electric heaters for a few daze...so my real problem is having a place to put the water where it will not drop below room temp and possibly cause the trichs to break off..so there..I came clean. :D..thought about putting it in veg but read that it should be placed where no light gets in and possibly degrade the thc..??..then thought about putting it on my monitor or other electrical appiance...but water and electric is just asking for trouble so I decided to wait.

Thx for hopping aboard, Milagro...can I please see an I.D. and your visa..lol..j/k..2thumbs

so I will definately be trying this soon..but was put on a back burner b/c of the situation here..brrr:cold: :shrug:

[AzGrowa]

well may beat Mili to the punch...
just whacked two males this afternoon, they are drying in the kif bucket as we speak.
and you know me, Mi jardinero if it's smokeable, I got the lighter...:rolleyes:

[milagro]

well may beat Mili to the punch...




Yeah, well that won't be hard.

I haven't done anything towards that goal. The wife is away so I have been smoking more than usual. When I smoke more than usual, I do less than usual. :D

Tomorrow I fly up to the low country to meet with a very famous entymologist at the First Annual Intercontinental Cannabis Entymology Conference.

Probably won't get around to it til next year.:p

And you better remind me then. :D



milagro

[XzoomD]

I have a friend who tried this with a three day soak, both wet and dry. He says he thinks the dry works better b/c the water had more color to it than the wet. I believe he did a 7 day wet soak too...but still prefers the 3 day dried weed soak. After talking he agreed to try it again....but so far he said the smoke is really smooth and might even have been more potent. he also said he thought eye appeal diminished some...which is really last on my list..I'm looking for buzz! haha
I will try it after I buy a dehydrator..either thgis weekend or next week

[AzGrowa]

Well an update, because I didn't wanna experience the Wrath of Milagro....: LOL:
the two males dried fairly quickly even with the kif bucket on the upper shelf in the grow room, plenty of humidity, and it took a week to dry 2 small plants. So another week of water cure, and I'm changing the water every day.
Had just enough weight to keep everything underwater for the 1st 24 hours. Removed the weight because all the material is suspended in the water. Agitating the mix 3-4 times a day. Just a light hand swishing or two the circulate the water and mix the plant material.

When it comes out of the water I'll just fold the material up in some paper towels and let it sun dry. May take a day or two. So I figure a week from Friday I should be able to sample the difference.

[XzoomD]

cool az!! :D

I guess I'll try a bud next week.

[milagro]

Yeah, sounds just delicious. :laugh:

I'll be waiting for your smoke report before I take any action.2thumbs




milagro

[AzGrowa]

Took the plant mass out of the water a few days early. Went 4 days in water. Looked like spinach when I took it out....
Squeezed all the water out, then let it sun dry on paper towel...smokity, smokity

Much smoother overall than good 'ol shchwag, another 3 days in the water cure would have completely removed any harshness from less than average weed.

As predicted the dried mass was substantially less than what when in. About 80% from the wet clipping weight.
But smokeable none the less, the high was actually better than expected. I anticipated a politle little buzz that would have been almost satisfying, but got substantially more. 2-3 bong rips was enough to produce a nice buzzy high that last 2-3 hours. Nice red-eye, and munchy after effects.
So I can't complain considering i got this from a couple of whacked Males from the current grow.

Would I do this again? with Females? no doubt....
got another whacked male that was tried real hard to disguse himself as the female gender, he's coolin his heals in the kif bucket.

Would I recommend water curing to a friend? Just so long as it isn't your prize stash. For turnin' harsh so-so weed into smoother and stonier weed I would really reccomend it.

However, for some of the tastier strains I would hesitate to do this unless the goal was to remove most of the flavor that air-curing imparts on the fruiter,spicer strains like blueberry. I can see where some peeps would want to remove some of the skunkiness of some of the heaiver Indica varieties.

As advertised Water curing does get rid of the harsness from having excessive amounts of chloryphyll in the smoking material.

I would also like to take this opportunity to mention that I saw another way of curing/drying weed, that is a little more labor-intensive, but potentialy more disasteous because it involves using closed curing jars that need to be monitored very closely.

Basically the process involeve placing the trimmed buds in jars before they are dried, and allowing then to slow dry/cure over a 3-4 week period.

The idea here is that giving the plant material a much longer time to convert chloryphyll into simple sugars, and allowing other chemical process to occur at a slower rate which in theory removes more of the harmful chemicals and by-products. Problem is, this process gets the buds dangerously close to the mold threshold we all like to avoid.
As I mentioned this process is rather labor intensive in the it requires the the jars be opened 6-8 times daily during the life of the cure. The pay-off is in very smooth and potent cure, because there is more chloryphyll broken down and less trapped in the dried plant material.

What the hey I might even try this one. Just leave the plant in the ground, and quit watering all together. Just let it wilt and die, problably take 2 maybe 3 weeks for the plant to complete use every last bit of water in its branches and stoma and eventually commit suicide trying to keep itself alive.
once it nearly dry whack whack....

[XzoomD]

Wow AG!..great post. :D

i can't help but wonder about the squeezing dry thing...would that mess with the trichs?..like break them off or be lost in the water?

Sounds like the trade off is taste..and I love the taste of a properly cured pull...on the flip side..the elimination of nasties..hmm..only one way to find out I suppose. I'm going to do it with a freshly cut bud..I guess I'll leave everything but the large fans..otherwise..how much chloro is in a bud?..I'm buzzed and babblin'. :D ..better just do it tonite and be done with it.

[AzGrowa]

Just waiting for for some more plants to get mature enough to put into flower.

And CB the other night if I had anything in flower? well I fibbed a little, had two the other night 'bout 2-3 weeks under 12-12 and just added another pair the next day.
going to try the 7 day water cure next.
Didn't even think about loosing trichs by pressing in paper towel, or course I sure there was possibly some loss there, maybe a smokable filter paper to press in?

the paper towel was in between the material and a smooth stone press. maybe I'll use rolling papers and just dry those as well, won't be hard to figure out which papers might add a little kick to a doob.

[XzoomD]

yea..sorry about not taking the plunge yet..but I was looking at some trim this might be a perfect fit for today...but I've been pre-occupied with other stuff.
thx Az. :D

[XzoomD]

ok..finally!

this is just a maybe an 1/8-1/4 oz of sun-leaves and trim...prolly closer to an eight.
when I was looking for something to soak it in I found a red container that I use for veg that did not have the drainage holes put in it yet...then I started thinking..what can I weigh the trim down with?..I saw a mess about to happen with half under water and the other half still floating.......what would keep it all down?...well how about another red container with the drainage holes in it already?..so I grab an empty one and sure enough it worked...the water came in thru the drainage holes a weighed it down so that all the mj was submerged. An added advantage is that when I drained yesterdays water it barely disturbed the weed..and when filling it back up the bottom of the upper container dissipated the flow of the water from the faucet..which again minimized any disturbance the herb ..so I named it the bucket in a bucket water cure. :D

this is day one..the water I replaced looked like a mild tea..btw...when I removed the top container the herb still floated some but looked pretty saturated ..I'll see if it sinks tomorrow.

also..after the pic I decided to add more water.

[milagro]

Whenever I see a rectangular red bucket I get goosebumps.:D

http://www.cliffhanger.nl/imagegroot/goosebumps.jpg



milagro

[buzzmobile]

I think your goose needs one of these, milagro.

http://www.yinfan.com/BEAUTY_CARE/NAIL_CLIPPERS/1/NO.602-DL.jpg

:D

[XzoomD]

haha..hey Buzzster..long time no see! :hello:

here it is on day..hmm:confused...lol..coupla' daze.:rolleyes:

[XzoomD]

ok..I smoked what amounted to a phatty and I was surprised that I really did get buzzed..but I also was downing a few beers...all in all..when I think that b/f I started saving trim to make hash that I used to throw it away bla-bla...I will be doing the water-cure with a coupl of buds next harvest so I can really compare the two.

:peace:

[GrandKynd]

I've read this thread from beginning to end, and I haven't seen exactly what "type" of water is sufficient for the "water cure". If I have missed that part, my apologies. Are you talking plain tap water, distilled, R/O, or what? Come to think of it, when we're talking taste, it would seem that rain water would be a viable option to use for the cure. Any opinions?

[XzoomD]

haha!..actually that is a great question/observation!...strawberry tea?

but yes..I suppose to do it right it would have to be r/o or distilled..how good could urban cesspool tap be?

fn Aliens!!...haha..j/k :D

[XzoomD]

I forgot to add that I did buy a dehydrator...so the next time I try this it should make for an 8 or 9 day cure...which would be nice.

:peace:

[witespy]

I forgot to add that I did buy a dehydrator...so the next time I try this it should make for an 8 or 9 day cure...which would be nice.

:peace:

i opened up mine and dissconnect the heat to not harm the THC...... adds a couple a days

[drumin]

Obviously the link to "OverGrow" is nonfunctioning but I ran across this:

THE WATER CURE COMPENDIUM - FAQ
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Introduction - What is the water cure? Why would I want to do it?

The water cure has only recently come to light as a widely accepted form of curing (mostly because of this thread). Water curing uses osmosis to flush out the chemicals, chlorophyl, pesticides, pests, and anything else you would rather not be smoking. The water cure is also very fast (about 7 days) with optimal quality (as compared to 30 days air curing), and as well does not stink like an air cure does. Water-cured buds are also more potent than air-cured (however there is proportional weight loss to potency increase).

THC is not water soluable, and the bud is protected from air/light, enabling potency to be maintained at it's highest levels, while the nasty chemicals are flushed out. Some growers report being able to add nutes all the way up to their harvest date because the water cure takes care of the built up chemicals.

Because of its speed, stealth and clean taste, water cure is very inviting to most non-commercial growers. The commercial grower might not be attracted to the water cure, as the weight of the bud is diminished.

Water cure can also be attractive to those smoking/cooking with suspect cannabis (schwag), moldy bud, pest infested bud, unflushed bud, etc.



How will my bud taste/smoke/smell/look?

Properly water-cured buds (submerged for 7 days and properly dried) will have a clean, thick taste when smoked, as well as being more potent than air-cured buds. This is one of the major advantages to the water cure; a quick drying process that retains potency and has a clean taste a flavor.

Smoking reports vary, however most people agree that water curing provides a very clean, smooth taste. Those with hashier, sandlewood/piney and harsher strains will find this method enjoyable for the clean, thick flavor without the edge (like a fine whisky).

However, those with frutier tasting strains have mixed results. They report the smoke is almost too smooth - much of the fruity/citrussy flavor removed.

The smell of the bud is greatly diminished, which many believe is one of the positive side-effects of water curing. Some also report a diminished smell in the smoke itself.

Water-cured buds tend to look more earthy and dark in tone. Some say the bag appeal is decreased, however proper care while water-curing can improve bag appeal.



What do I need for this? What is the process?

1. A container hold your bud and appropriate water (about 4 times as much water as amount of bud). A cooler with some kind of drainage works great.

2. A dehydrator or low-impact heat device. Dehydrators work great and cost about $40 from walmart. Radiators work well (as long as it isn't too hot), and some report using hair dryers.

3. A cool, dark place to put the water-curing container.

You need at least 7 days to do this, any less than seven can result in undesireable quality. Even 5 days in water is not enough - you need seven!!!

Plop in your freshy cut buds (or schwag, whatever, but fresh buds work best) into enough water to completely submerge the buds. The buds will float to the top for the first few days of this, so you need something to hold them down (a block of wood, a plate, etc). Change the water every day for 7 days, any less than seven could result in undesirable results (trust me). Try not to disturb the buds when changing the water as plant material can break off more easily (read: trichomes). Always keep the lid of the cooler open, do not seal off the container.

The water may take on a yellowish/greenish (even brownish) tint each day, moreso as the bud becomes completely saturated with the water. It will probably also stink. This is good, as it is the nasty chlorophyl and salts exiting your plant.

After 7 days remove the buds from the water. They will be sopping wet, and can be dried relatively quickly. MPD (and many more of us) purchased a food dehydrator from wal-mart for about $40 and consensus tells us this may be the best method for drying. Put the dehydrator on the lowest setting and dry for about 5 hours or so.

Radiators and other low-impact heating devices can also be used. Users have reported hair dryers working with some success, as well as hanging the wet buds on a clothes line with a fan circulating air. The important thing to do is to ensure the buds dry quickly enough to not become moldy, but with as low-impact of a drying environment as possible.



7 DO'S and DON'TS of water curing

1. Do not close the lid on the cooler. As the chlorophyll bleeds off into the water it evaporates - this is good and sealing the cooler just puts the crap back in the water.

2. Keep out of direct sunlight. I just put the cooler in the garage and that's the end of that.

3. Don't stir or agitate. This serves no useful purpose.

4. Don't bother straining the water for trichomes when you change it each day. I've tried it countless times and have yet to get enough trichones to make it worth the effort, though some hairs will break loose.

5. I've water cured as long as 9 days, but there was no real improvement over the 7 day mark - so why bother?

6. Do use a dehydrator. They cost $35 over at Walmart and you set it on the lowest possible setting. Mine takes about 5 hours to dry out a 1/2 pound of sopping wet buds. If you line dry make sure there is a drip tray or tarp for them to drip on.

7. DO NOT water cure seeded buds that were intentionally seeded so you can harvest seeds. Air cure these buds only...



What is the dry-weight ratio comparison with air curing?

Dry weight using air cure usually returns about 25% of the freshly cut bud weight. That means if you had 10 grams of freshly cut plant, you would get about 2.5 grams dry.

Water cure, on the other hand, returns about 15% from wet to dry. In our 10 gram example, that would be about 1.5 grams.



So why is there less weight using water, but more potency?

THC is not water soluable. When the buds are underwater, they are protected from environmental conditions such as humidity, over exposure to air, temperature, and light. This consistent state is something not easily achieved through the traditional air cure, which can be prone to a harsher smoke with decreased potency if everything isn't just so.

Water cure enables the removal of undesireable elements from your bud while retaining potency.



How potency is increased through the water cure

I should explain this so that the conspiracy theory kooks don't land on me like a ton of bricks.

Here's the "magic" behind the increased potency you get by water curing.

For the sake of making it simple, I'll use an example of 100 grams of bud going into the pot.

Now, you had this bud assayed and know that 15% of it is pure THC.

15% of 100 grams is 15 grams. So in our example the 100 grams of fresh bud has 15 grams of THC in it.

You water cure it and dry it. Now you have only 70 grams of bud left. WTF?

But you are deceived because the 15 grams of THC is part of the remaining 70 grams of bud. 15 divided by 70 equals 21.42%.

Sooo....

The mass didn't change, just some of the things that were there - aren't there anymore, so what is left becomes a bigger proportion of the entirety.

You go assay your water cured bud and find out it has 21.42% THC content - a 50% increase in potency.

Not bad, eh?



How osmosis leaches nasties, saves trichs

In air, chlorophyll breaks down at a rate that is only slightly faster than the breakdown rate of the resin - hence the reason the pot is dried for a short time then placed in jars and burped - but always out of direct sunlight because sunlight plus air equals an ideal situation for the THC is to break down and thus a loss of potency may ensue.

In water, the chlorophyll breaks down (out of the plant) while the THC remains suspended in the resin and is relatively unaffected by the surrounding water medium.



More on chrlorophyll removal

Water curing and air curing are doing exactly the same thing except you retain flavour and smell with air drying and with water curing you lose that flavour and smell but you have a smoothe smoke....

The Chloryphyll in the plant leaves through either the water evaporating (air cure) or through osmosis into the water around it...Water curing is obvously more affective at removing chloryphyll because you are adding more water, and
the smoke is smoother (chloryphyll is a big factor in bad tasting and bad burning weed)....however smell and taste come from terpenes in the plant that are also water soluble so they are lost in the water curing process....

In air curing the chloryphyll has to leave by the evaporating water in the bud....this is less affective but you keep those smell and taste terpenes.....so why after going through the trouble to preserve and develop them through air curing would you dunk them in water and lose them?

Its either one or the other

[Dawg]

bump for sticky budz...can't c/p in chat

[midwestbluntman]

bump for sticky budz...can't c/p in chat


Ahh but i think you can,I belive that control v will paste whatever to the chat.i know it works with links and shit of that nature anyway.

[Sticky_Budz]

That is one awesome thread bro thanks never new u could do that with bud thanks for the great post peace

[StoninStanley]

it should be noted that some believe that the terpines have an effect on the shape and potency of the buzz. this would help to explain the seemingly endless variety of highs and stones to be found in MJ. if this is true, a water cure could strip the buds of these valuable molecules thus making it potentially less potent.

[Dawg]

Sticky was wondering if something like chem on them or something....this could be a method to save the harvest. Make it work...less potent is better than none at all. lol

I tried the right click c/p on the java didn't work....didn't think of doin the keyboard method...i'll try that next time. thx

[drumin]

it should be noted that some believe that the terpines have an effect on the shape and potency of the buzz. this would help to explain the seemingly endless variety of highs and stones to be found in MJ. if this is true, a water cure could strip the buds of these valuable molecules thus making it potentially less potent.
I haven't heard about that, SS. Do you have any info on it? A quick google search on the word (terpene) doesn't give any clue as to the water solubility of terpenes.