Trace Element Bomber!

[rolanterroy]

Use the following at a ratio of 1 teaspoon per gallon, on the "floor" of your containers, if you are growing organics in soilmix. This little combo will take care of many things in its own right and really is kick ass in so many ways!

In an 8oz container mix together:

2 heaping teaspoons of Blood Meal

2 heaping teaspoons of Bone Meal

2 heaping teaspoons of Glacier Dust or Rock Phosphate

Fill the rest up with Greensand

Mix together very well.


After placing this on the floor of your container, dump about 1/2 teaspoon of Prilled Dolomite Lime per teaspoon of the mix above right on top of this blend then fill your container as you would.

Also don't forget to always add some earthworm castings, at a rate of about 1/2 cup per gallon of soilmix.

This little recipe above will handle all of your trace elements to a large degree, and cover some other stuff like Mg and Ca as well as Nitric Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potassium.

Trace elements are where most organic gardners get into trouble by having to add them after the fact and frying shit with ignorance of how to use them.

Anyways just a little helpy-helper post for any of you that are interested!

- REv :smoke1:

[gorilla]

Use the following at a ratio of 1 teaspoon per gallon, on the "floor" of your containers

I take it this means don't add your whole mix to the bottom of any one container. But dilute it 1 teaspoon per gallon of .. what? Container size?

[rolanterroy]

I take it this means don't add your whole mix to the bottom of any one container. But dilute it 1 teaspoon per gallon of .. what? Container size?

Whatever your current organics blend is, add the mix above on the floor of the container before you put in your current soilmix, and also I would recommend the earthworm castings mixed into your current mix as well globally.

You don't mix in the Greensand blend or the prilled dolomite lime, you leave them on the floor of the container; and yes, per 1 gallon of soilmix (or per 1 gal of container size) is what I mean mang.

- REv :smoke1:

[Fing_57]

I've been mix'n all the above in a seasoning shaker (Pizza Pepper shaker) and walking around the plants/yard giving it to every thing

thought it would help get my soil/yard working better

[rolanterroy]

I've been mix'n all the above in a seasoning shaker (Pizza Pepper shaker) and walking around the plants/yard giving it to every thing

thought it would help get my soil/yard working better

Jedi-Grower Fingster mang :)

Heh heh, good stuff maynard! pay attention to those ratios above, as I have found them to be extreemely right-on-the money as far as balance goes and I use the Greensand Blend now as I would normally use greensand!

I know you get oyster shells too, and I always mix those in at a ratio of about one big handfull of oyster shells per 3 gallons of soilmix globally and my ratios of prilled dolomite at a ratio of about 1/2 teaspoon per gallon of soilmix globally as well. Cuz I run my mixes pretty stinkin' HOT LoL!

LOVE the oyster shells man, and the plants really really dig on them as well bigtime! :gthumb:

- REv :smoke1:

[StoninStanley]

thx for the info rolanterroy im definatly gonna try that cause last grow was with MG and that doesnt have many trace elements, id love to see what a MJ plant can do with some real good shit

i like your avatar fing, its fuckin cool :cool:

[rolanterroy]

thx for the info rolanterroy im definatly gonna try that cause last grow was with MG and that doesnt have many trace elements, id love to see what a MJ plant can do with some real good shit

i like your avatar fing, its fuckin cool :cool:

Get the "Prilled" dolomite lime, it's easy to find at almost anyplace I have been to; prilled just means pelletized so it's not smothering the roots with lime throughout your mix as it is with the powdered dolomite and is theee primo source for Mg & Ca for organics growers in my opinion.

Below you can see my total arsenal of liquid organics ammendments...

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5161&stc=1&d=1153934351

I use these VERY sparingly and mostly my organics soilmix supports my growth and flowering to finish in 3 gal containers all by itself ...just add water LoL!

I do use some Fox Farms Big Bloom in small amounts all throughout flowering still though cuz I did a side by side and the Big Bloom enhanced yields were just as good only bigger by about 15% or so.

- REv :smoke1:

[gorilla]

I know from experience blood meal is some soft, dusty stuff. The other products i can't totally speak for. But my point is still..

Like.. If you were to leave me alone with unlimited ingredients, but no knowlege.
I probably wouldn't put something so dusty on the direct bottom of my container, thinking that it would be the first thing to come through with the watering.

You put anything else there or trust it to hold up?

[SpanglyBoovus]

So, because of the blood meal in this mix, you would want to use this for the last 3 or 4 weeks of veg, right? because the blood will still be available if you did this transplant just before starting flowering... ?

Use the following at a ratio of 1 teaspoon per gallon, on the "floor" of your containers, if you are growing organics in soilmix. This little combo will take care of many things in its own right and really is kick ass in so many ways!

In an 8oz container mix together:

2 heaping teaspoons of Blood Meal

2 heaping teaspoons of Bone Meal

2 heaping teaspoons of Glacier Dust or Rock Phosphate

Fill the rest up with Greensand

Mix together very well.


After placing this on the floor of your container, dump about 1/2 teaspoon of Prilled Dolomite Lime per teaspoon of the mix above right on top of this blend then fill your container as you would.

Also don't forget to always add some earthworm castings, at a rate of about 1/2 cup per gallon of soilmix.

This little recipe above will handle all of your trace elements to a large degree, and cover some other stuff like Mg and Ca as well as Nitric Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potassium.

Trace elements are where most organic gardners get into trouble by having to add them after the fact and frying shit with ignorance of how to use them.

Anyways just a little helpy-helper post for any of you that are interested!

- REv :smoke1:

[rolanterroy]

That is a greensand blend there amigo and is really actually (percentage wise) low in blood meal; I just use this mix in place of my greensand always, even in the transplant into the flowering container. I wouldn't worry about anything like in these amounts with all that greensand spang, since I only add like mebbe a little of this in the last transplant, I don;t remmeber how much I use but I think about 1 tsp in the 3gal cuz I already have plenty of greensand still all fine and good I put in when I transplanted into the 5" container. A little greensand goes a loong way brohammer.

You use Marine Cuisine right? That's a hot N source that is also long term like Blood meal, just a little weaker is all. If you lay off your kelp/seaweed extract I think you will see them start to fade for ya, also use molasses every other time max not everytime and if you use molasses as a regular part of your routine then since it is ummmm.... 1-0-5 I think it also covers some K stuff for ya so less greensand is needed anyways. Gotta kinda keep track, like a casual tally in your head of the major componants of whatever you are adding nute wise. Go through your ingredients, and just check them out for what they all add. Then, check out all your N sources and see what up with your mix that way.

I think you will be fine bro unless you fugged off your beasties somehow, or you really JACKED UP SOME SERIOUS N beyond what I did with the bloodmeal, they don't gotta fade to yellow using living organics to come out fully sweet. ;)

- REv

[rolanterroy]

I know from experience blood meal is some soft, dusty stuff. The other products i can't totally speak for. But my point is still..

Like.. If you were to leave me alone with unlimited ingredients, but no knowlege.
I probably wouldn't put something so dusty on the direct bottom of my container, thinking that it would be the first thing to come through with the watering.

You put anything else there or trust it to hold up?

Nope, just on the floor with hard core LoL! :D

[rolanterroy]

Yeah spangler you could easily use 1 teaspoon per gallon (container size) of that Greensand Blend with no worries 60 days before harvest, easily! No sweat.

- REvster

[drumin]

So REv, do you put this mix in the bottom of your pots every time you transplant or just the initial planting?

Would you use this same ratio if you were using FF Ocean forest soil?

[rolanterroy]

See, if you are using a soilmix like FF Ocean Forest that is basically designed with cannabis in mind, and has a really good ratio of K already there, I would still use it (mostly for trace and stuff just for good measure) but way less, like prolly 1tsp per 3gal container right on the "floor" like that.

Since I recycle my soil, my K gets pretty used up and so it is one of the things I always add like that, but at about 3x (or 3tsp per 3 gal container size.) But Ocean Forest as a stand alone soilmix is hands down the best out of the bag organics soilmix I have ever seen before or used I mean. I still always have a bag of it handy for stuff like seedlings and freshly rooted clones sometimes if I don't have an appropriate mix ready to go. Always kicks ass all the time no exception.

I am so totally impressed with all the FoxFarms products man they really got it goin' on and don't charge ya outta line prices either. I know they are coming out with massive soilmixes like Frog's Pride and such, but I'll tell ya man, get your own myco-fungi stuff and using just Ocean Forrest, a very intense combo that leads to KILLER buds and happy plants!

In fact if you ONLY use Ocean Forest soil and nothing added, and you use the myco-fungi and just good water like distilled/rain/ or R/O water, and some FF Big Bloom into flowering, as long as you keep your container sizes on the bigger side, your plants will SCREAM! SCREAM! :D

I have set up a few peeps on this very dynamic here locally that just want it simple and just wanna get 'er done heh heh, and thay are all super happy with it.

So basically if you are using some random soilmix from a nursery or something yes I would always add that at 3rtsp per 3gal container but in a cannabis designed soilmix at 1/3rd


- REvster :smoke1:

[SpanglyBoovus]

Yeah spangler you could easily use 1 teaspoon per gallon (container size) of that Greensand Blend with no worries 60 days before harvest, easily! No sweat.

- REvster

Cool thanks for explaining this rev.

I was misreading your original post going :eek:

i getcha now. :D

[ice#1]

i've been looking everywhere for greensand is it called anything else

[Trailer Park Boy]

Jersey sand, Texas sand, Glauconite Greensand.

Green Sand, as used in metal workiing and casting is NOT the same greensand that is rich in iron potassium silicates, and won't be any good for your plants.

(thanks for the first two fing, you know I looked up casting sand!)