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gorilla
07-19-2006, 05:40 PM
This was taken from a pamplet I recieved with my nutrients. More information on this line of nutrients can be found at http://cornicopiaplus.com , However I wanted to share the general information it provided.

Cornucopia Plus, Dr. Thomas' Necessary Plant Energy

Just how important are organic acids?
In 1966, J.C. Noggle reported a correlation between yield and concentration of organic acids in plants. Nutrient treatments, which increase organic acids, also increase yields. Is it possible to increase yield by adding acids to a plant's environment? The answer is a resounding yes for soil media, soils media, and hydro systems.

Why organic Plant Acids?
The two most obvious requirements for cell maintenance and growth are a source of energy and a source of carbon skeletons for the higher plants, both the energy and carbon skeletons are supplied by the reactions of the tricarboxylic acid cycle. In any plant tissue, the amount of acid varies with phase of development and environmental conditions. The Limits of variation and the types of acid accumulated are genetically controlled.

Respiration?
Represents largely the metabolism of TCA Organic acids in a series of biochemical reaction: Accumulation mineral ions; oxidations of food occurring in living cells; synthesizing fats, proteins, sugars and other compounds; maintenance of protoplasmic structure; cell division. Organic acids that serve as a respiratory intermediates are derived from carbohydrates occupying a metabolic crossroads between fats, protein, and carbohydrates.

Carbon Dioxide Fixation?
Plant roots secrete carbon dioxide gas, carbonic acids and organic acids into the soil where carbon dioxide gas is absorbed by the surrounding plant acids. The combination of gas and acids are then transported to the aerial parts of the plants, which contributes materially to the total carbon dioxide assimilation of plants.

Photosynthesis and Carbon dioxide?
The relationship between acid metabolism, carbon dioxide fixation, and ion uptake by roots run parallel with total photosynthetic assimilation. Many plant tissues can metabolically fix carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, in a non-photosynthetic process involving organic acids. Carbon dioxide fixation in leaves involves organic acids.

Plant acid summary?
Represents mineral metabolism; nitrogen metabolism; energy to drive metabolic processes; fat metabolism; carbohydrate metabolism; amino acid metabolism; carbon dioxide fixation; growth. Plant acid auxiliary plant acids buffer fertilizer salts, preventing root burn, reduces insoluble mineral precipitates, Organic buffer of PH or lowering PH. Root respiration in its various phases represents largely the metabolism of organic acids. Root carbon dioxide fixation in cooperates organic acid. Many plant tissues accompanying organic acid accumulation, can metabolically fix carbon dioxide from the atmosphere in non-photosynthetic processes. Every living cell contains organic plant acids. It is the cells of higher plant that often contain one or a combination of these acids at high concentration, many plants tricarboxylic acids are a highly diverse and important group in the composition of the plant. Cycle catalytic organic acids, from enzymic sequences of reactions affecting the metabolism of nitrogenous compounds and the metabolism of sugars and fats. The relationship between acid and metabolism, carbon dioxide fixation, and ion uptake by roots run parallel with totally photosynthetic assimilation.
"Energizes plant metabolism and maximizes plant production."

gorilla
07-19-2006, 05:46 PM
The actual product that all of this information is about is called: Necessary plant energy. It is not really a nutrient, but an additive to, apparently, allow plants to take in nutrients better and more readily.

As long as this is my thread, I'll start off with the first question. :rolleyes:
Since these "organic plant acids" supposedly allow the plant to absorb nutrients more readily, how do you think it would react in a fully organic soil? ( "Fully organic soil" What I mean by this is a plant grown using only organics, liquid nutrients included. The line of nutrients this product comes with are inorganic. )

CB
07-19-2006, 06:49 PM
can ya list whats in it and at what %

if it's in the line of nutes and they have a feed chart include'n it in it, then i would say yes

kinda like foxfarms bro....the best of both worlds is what they call it ;)

works for me

grow on

gorilla
07-19-2006, 08:32 PM
No ingredients to be found, CB. There is no NPK ratio either. It's really just a stimulant or something.

I think my nutes are 2-1-2, 2-1-2, and 2-2-2. Inorganic nutrients derived from organic elements.

Really, what I was getting at with my question in the second post is: Say you're using different Guano's as your nutrients. This is about as organic as ya get. Just curious if these plant acids would help. I think they may because I really love the results i'm getting as of now.

( Just been reading about Guano and all it's different types and It got me real curious as for next time. )

ice#1
07-20-2006, 06:40 PM
i use lxr gold from grotek they say it is a organicbio-catalyst made up of a blend of 16 organic acids derived from humic acids

gorilla
07-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Sounds very similar. Glad to hear there are other products like this.


You use it with any nute regiment w/out problems? Like the results?

ice#1
07-21-2006, 03:04 PM
not realy sure i got it when i got my new strains so i realy have not had the chance to see the differance yes i use it when i feed