Sick ladies!

[Dooby420]

Hey all,

so today when I went to water the ladies I seen some changes that had happened..............

Well first of all they were wilted, I figured this was b/c of lack of water. The soil was very dry and the pots felt light.

But what bothered me was that the bottom leaves were turning yellow and drying up and falling off... Okay well I guess this is kinda normal but the upper leaves at the 3rd node or so were turning yellowish-green and some of them had black patchy spots on them :eek: :eek:

My first thought was that I gave them too much nutes but then I thought I haven't given them any nutes for 2 weeks, and if they were to show burn it would have been a long time ago?

My ladies 8 1/2 weeks old from seed and about 2 1/2 weeks into flower.

It isn't diseased is it?? :(

Thanks for the help

-DooB :cool:

[gorilla]

Leaf yellowing, and eventually leaf droppage, is common with underwatering.
Be prepared to see those yellow leaves fall off in the next day or two if this is the case. If the upper leaves are yellowing, maybe that's only because you havent fed in two weeks.

You got me stumped as far as black splotches though, good luck.

[Dooby420]

thanks for the help gorilla

The reason I didn't feed in 2 weeks is because I gave them a "mini-flush" a week ago to kinda wash out all the other nutes and then today started them on the super bloom

I usually water really good once a week, since it takes about 5-7 days for the soil to get completely dry

And yes, only the bottom leaves are yellowing with black splotches

Thanks

-DooB

[Lollie1]

Hi Dooby420,

Well first of all they were wilted, I figured this was b/c of lack of water. The soil was very dry and the pots felt light.

My first thought was that I gave them too much nutes but then I thought I haven't given them any nutes for 2 weeks, and if they were to show burn it would have been a long time ago?

I haven't seen your ladies so this is literally a shot in the dark-it sounds like they're hungry. The main reason I say this is because it's starting at the bottom of the plant. It sounds like she is cannablizing the older growth.

All the best,
Lollie

[Dooby420]

it sounds like they're hungry. The main reason I say this is because it's starting at the bottom of the plant. It sounds like she is cannablizing the older growth.

All the best,
Lollie

Lollie,

thanks for the help. If this is the reason, is there a specific nute they want (either N,P, or K?)

I gave them 1/2 dose of Peters Super Blossom Booster today and it is 10-50-10. Going to check on them in about 2 hours so I will update then ;)

-DooB

[StoninStanley]

i think maybe your problem is you need more phosphorus because when i started flowering and saw them stretching i gave them a little N to get some good branches and leaf. after two weeks of stretch the middle of the plant and the bottom older fan leaves were turning yellow and dieing, but not like normal. they had necrotic spots in the middle of their leaves, is this what you have? as soon as i hit it with some phosphorus it came right out of it. youve probably just fixed it by hitting it with those nutes but its always nice to know what went wrong in the first place so you can fix it if it happens again

[Dooby420]

StoninStanley - yea bro thats exactly what is happening: yellowing leaves and black "patches" or "spots" in the middle of them. Yeah, I hit them with a good bit of phosphorous today so we'll see tomorrow

And by the way, checked them about an hour ago, still yellowing and black spots, but not wilted anymore ;)

Hopefully this will clear up soon.

Thanks again.

-DooB

[StoninStanley]

yeah those leaves that got damaged probably wont come back out of it but oh well, your gonna have plenty more in a few days

[ndnguy]

Hi Dooby420,





I haven't seen your ladies so this is literally a shot in the dark-it sounds like they're hungry. The main reason I say this is because it's starting at the bottom of the plant. It sounds like she is cannablizing the older growth.

All the best,
Lollie
Yup, why wouldn't you feed your plants for two weeks in flower????:( They need food bro ,can only live off their reserves for so long.

[Dooby420]

Yup, why wouldn't you feed your plants for two weeks in flower????:( They need food bro ,can only live off their reserves for so long.

Yeah bro when I think about it now, it was a stupid decision, but hey live and learn, right? ;)

I figured I'd mini flush so I could wash some of the N out .... I guess you're only supposed to do this right before harvest right?

Thanks for the help

-DooB

[Dooby420]

well i got these 3 ladies almost 5 weeks into flower, when I hit em with the nutes it cleared up for awhile

I have been feeding them once a week with full dose 10-50-10, yesterday when I checked on them one of the ladies leaves were turning brown, and curling, almost looking singed :eek:

Temps are ok (70-75), and they just as close to the 400w hps as the other 2 ladies are. I'm not sure what I did lol but I think it might be nute burn

Today I checked em again and it had got worse with the burn moving up to the 3rd and 4th nodes

First it started with necrotic spots and the end of the leaf tip curls, then the whole leaf starts turning a wierd dark yellow/orangish color. Then it gets a kinda "fried" look and just falls off... :mad:

This is the only thing thats wrong with her, the other ladies are just fine the leaves at the bottom have started turning yellow (I'm assuming this is nothing to worry about at this point into flowering) Their leaves still look healthy though, just yellowing

Someone please help I dont wanna lose a girl at this point in time :(

[Lollie1]

well i got these 3 ladies almost 5 weeks into flower
5 weeks seems to be about the time they can start saying "enough." What are your numbers doing?

All the best,
Lollie

[Dooby420]

5 weeks seems to be about the time they can start saying "enough." What are your numbers doing?

All the best,
Lollie

Hey Lollie Do you mean they are saying enough nutes?

-DooB

[ndnguy]

well i got these 3 ladies almost 5 weeks into flower, when I hit em with the nutes it cleared up for awhile

I have been feeding them once a week with full dose 10-50-10, yesterday when I checked on them one of the ladies leaves were turning brown, and curling, almost looking singed :eek:

Temps are ok (70-75), and they just as close to the 400w hps as the other 2 ladies are. I'm not sure what I did lol but I think it might be nute burn

Today I checked em again and it had got worse with the burn moving up to the 3rd and 4th nodes

First it started with necrotic spots and the end of the leaf tip curls, then the whole leaf starts turning a wierd dark yellow/orangish color. Then it gets a kinda "fried" look and just falls off... :mad:

This is the only thing thats wrong with her, the other ladies are just fine the leaves at the bottom have started turning yellow (I'm assuming this is nothing to worry about at this point into flowering) Their leaves still look healthy though, just yellowing

Someone please help I dont wanna lose a girl at this point in time :(
Key word there bro is burning, flush them good and start them on a lower dose 0/15/16 something like that that late in flower you do not need the N your giving them and thats why I believe your burning them Just p and k should be good for now with a bud booster maybe . Course I could be totally wrong bro and might kill your plants.:eek: Naw I really think its the N and the 50 on the p. Hope that helps her but flushing is your friend.;)

[ndnguy]

Lack of info is what leads to misdiagnosis - not the other way around A photo is worth 1000 words . . .

But with what little you've given, it simply sounds like a case of overfertilisation. Tips brown (burn) and then the whole leaf tends to yellow/brown shrivel up and die.

Let's see if I have some photos of overfertilised plants in my gallery . . .




So, is ^that^ what you are trying to describe? If so, the first thing you should do is flush your plants with fresh water and don't fertiliser them again for two weeks or until they shown no more sign of burning. But don't do anything drastic until you are sure that's the problem. Give them some fresh water to begin with, come back and tell us how you are going.


Bummer pics didn't show, but was pics of nute burned plants decribed by Dooby. Don't take the couple of weeks advice on this one as you will need some thing to help your budding ,something organic so you don't start to burn up your ladies ok.;)

[Lollie1]

Hey Dooby420,

I'm sorry. I should not have stuck my nose in. I grow in water so I don't know soil. With the first post I got lucky because some people with knowledge jumped in and helped you.

In hydro, I start hitting them with some fairly strong nutrients in, say about weeks 3-7 of flower (I'm still not real sure about this time frame yet so don't quote me), then I back off. I never flush and I do back off quite a bit. But, I adjust the amount of nutrients by what the plant tells me it needs by adjusting the pH. In hydro I also have a mix of what I call my "nutrient bucket." In that bucket I have a "general" mix of nutrients that gives me healthy plant growth. When I tend my garden the biggest question I have to ask myself when one of my ladies needs to have her reservoir topped off is - Do I give this one water from the "nutrient bucket" or just plain reverse osmosis water? That's about the biggest question I can handle some times-I smoke too much.

Hey Lollie Do you mean they are saying enough nutes?
What I would do in my garden is add more water from the plain water bucket at top offs and this would bring down the nutrient concentration of what the plants are drinking. Sorry, I don't know how this would translate into a soil garden.

Sorry if I confused you. :o I really was just trying to help. Just to let you know, because of situations like this I really try to no longer post in soil gardens as I just don't know enough to add my 2 cents.

All the best,
Lollie

[Dooby420]

ndnguy thanks bro I think you are correct, I am going to back off on the nutes on this lady for a bit and see what happens. Its kinda wieird that I have been feeding her other 2 sisters the same dosage adn they are loving it, oh well :shrug:

Lollie1 Thanks for your 2 cents, even though you don't grow in soil, I appreciate any input from growers with experience :D Besides, I dont know the first thing to growin hydro so maybe I can learn a thing or two ;)

-DooB