12/12

[bigsmoker420]

i put my plant on 12/12 when they turned 4 weeks old and its been almost 2 weeks and i still have no sign of sex is that normal or is somthing not going right

[midwestbluntman]

hey bro normally they show in 2 or so weeks so anytime now you should be able to see them.

[Fred Lemonjello]

Where they fairly mature when you turned them..... as in like were the nods starting to stagger?
What kinda light are ya usin?

Are ya jus trying to sex the plants... or are ya goin to go full bud with these?

I really doubt there's much of anythang wrong, cept they were prolly a lil immature when ya turned em to flower.


Fred

[Fred Lemonjello]

*WT_F* double post!
Wow been a long time since I've done that!!!!!!!

Soz
Fred

[bigsmoker420]

well i think im startin to see some balls on one of my plants it suxs i only have 2 there both prolly gonna turn out to be male and i want a fem o well ill just start over if thats how it turns out

[rolanterroy]

Here's the thing, in my experience, I have found that you need to veg a plant from seed for at least 50 or so days before flowering and I go 60 myself. The reason for this is for attaining more of the genetic potential from the finished product.

Most noticably effected when NOT vegged for at least 50 days is the loss of potency that *could* have been there if it were vegged for about 50 days, but when vegged for less than that, will usually end up about 60-70% of what it could have been if you waited for 50 days. Another thing that suffers is flavors.

ANother thing bro, when you force them to flower like that at less than 60 days vegging.....

If it shows male, it's a male 100%

If it shows female it's a female 90% *could turn out hermie or male 10% chance

- REv :smoke1:

[gorilla]

Is there a lot of truth behind that, Rev?


You must grow some big fuckers.

[rolanterroy]

Heh heh, well, I take cuttings then sex the seedlings when I do that so that's why they don't get humongous LoL!

Yeah amigo, all that is totally true if you ask me man, I mean it's like almost any of my posts, all in my opinion and/or in my experience; I try to always say that in them but sometimes I forget :p :)

- REv :smoke1:

[billo]

yeah man
im of the same belief t
that if u are groeing from seed u need to vege for an extended time
i like u go minimum 60
the pay offs for this i have found id that when its flower time u have a nice rootball to support above ground growth
alternating nodes for best bud formation
strong stuerdy frame to support flowreing
maximised yield as plant has max cell division etc
pronounced tricrome production..

take clones b4 turning and u can groom these clones to grow as u like
imo establish a big root ball on clones then flower a month behind the above plant and u got a staggered harvest

my 2c
peace
stay safe
b

[bigsmoker420]

well rev thanx for the advice its a little late for me to do that now but im definitly gonna veg longer next time around

[gorilla]

Just so you know Bigsmoker, if you're gonna veg that long ... prepare.

Rofl. Rev, if i'm understanding correctly, is only using the seed plants to find female (or male) clones and growing those out.

Vegging for 2 months is gonna get you one beast of a plant.

[billo]

u can always train, scrog
or even lollipop

stay safe
b

[bigsmoker420]

hell yea gorilla if i was to do that my plants would look like trees but i think i have a confirmed male im thinkin on just gorwing it since its my first time to get a little experince you kno

peace,bigsmoker

[gorilla]

IMO you're better off starting again than attempting to flower a male now. All he'd produce for you is.. i guess cooking or hash material.

I think you got the experience you need, 12/12 is like autopilot. They stretch for a bit and then it's all budding. :p

[drumin]

Go for the hash, you'll want the experience sooner or later! :electric:

[rolanterroy]

When I go from seed, after about 30 days, I take big clones off the month old seedlings, about 1/3rd off the top then I root those tops in a bubble cloner:

Bubble Cloner Link: http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1327

Then in another 30 days I have all the clones rooted and planted and in vegg; and then I put all the topped seedlings into flowering to sex them and flower them. It works out OK, and you can even slow them down a bit if ya need to using a couple diff things, like floro lighting and smaller container sizes. But myself, I would rather they just jam along and I can bend them if I need to.

I also have about 5' of vertical space as well so it's really not a big concern for me although I really don't like them to finish over 3' tall or so or else I have to bring in some side lighting for down low to get those big-fat PoPcorn buds on all the lower budsites!

- REv :smoke1:

[cannabuds]

i have a question since im tryin to get into growin myself, as everyone says 12/12 is when the buds grow and whatnot so has anyone ever tried 16/8 or 20/4 i mean with 20 hours of darkness instead of 12 would'nt it produce even more ? just a question i had to ask.

[drumin]

i have a question since im tryin to get into growin myself, as everyone says 12/12 is when the buds grow and whatnot so has anyone ever tried 16/8 or 20/4 i mean with 20 hours of darkness instead of 12 would'nt it produce even more ? just a question i had to ask.
Here's the deal cannabuds, plants need light so if you cut down on the light the plant can't grow and produce the buds you're lookin for. 12/12 lighting simulates the coming of winter which tells the plant (chemically) to start producing seeds (or pollen sacks for males) for the next generation. giving extra darkness is unnatural to the plant and can result in the plant going into a stress mode which can produce undesired results.

24/7 lighting has pretty much been debunked as well. Some say that seedlings don't need a period of darkness and I think the jury is still out but as far as vegatative state goes, with 24/7 lighting the plant will still "sleep" (it stops photosynthesis and works with the proteins and sugars the photo period creates) even if the lights are on. So it's recommended that YOU the grower determine when the plant sleeps. Otherwise you could run into a little stress when you go to flower and the plant has been "sleeping" when you want it growing and waking up when you want it to be sleeping.

Sorry to ramble... :p