LST guide

[CB]

well seems are grow'n pal drumin is interested in lst :D

so thought i would break out my yellow bucket for the task.....

first thing i do is remove the handle ;) (learned the hard way on that)

i like to go from the party cup to 5 gallon for this. reason is i can plant the plant real close to the edge like this

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4780&stc=1&d=1152381548

next we want a counter tie for the plant. I use the green garden twisty ties but couldnt find them :mad: but did find a peice of old speaker wire and attached to the ring that goes around the outside of the bucket (see the holes )

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4781&stc=1&d=1152381548

now your ready to bend the plant over :eek:

couple different ways to go about this depends on the stem and age of plant.. if the stem is soft and flexable just bend her over if not like in this case just rub the stem between thumb and finger to break some of the fibers up so it will bend....if you over do it at this point and the plant just flops over on ya no harm done

allso gonna need a way to hold the plant done had some garden stakes things just for that but couldnt find those either so i made some...coat hangers work good for this but i didnt have a metal one so used some heavy fence'n wire

just cut and shape em like this

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4782&stc=1&d=1152381548

now it's time to pin her down.... i go 90* and insert 3-4 pins to hold it like so

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4783&stc=1&d=1152381548

now it's time to wait, with in 24-48 hours the plant will turn it's self upward and we can pin some more ;)

what we are after is secondary growth so lets keep an eye that and see what happens

back in a couple days with update piccys and more tie's

grow on

[dredank]

great thread cb! lst is a great way to grow indeed, works magic:D

i try to do some tying down or busting stems or FIMing on all my plants;)

peace

[gorilla]

Very nice tutorial CB.

Definately needed an LST thread around here. :greatjob:

[Cranky]

nice one cb;) bring on the spider plant:D

shall be having ago myself pretty soon so shall be watching for the tips:cool:

grow on

cranky

[CB]

thx all

for those that have seen my yellow bucket in action allready know what can be produced by this methode... longer you can veg the more you will get ;)

wont be veg'n this as long as the spider plant cranky but will go a few more weeks on her;)

grow on

[dredank]

whats the spider plant?

do ya got a pic?

[Cranky]

whats the spider plant

mean looking bastard....its got long black curly teeth and evrything:p

cranky

[billo]

what is the size of the yellow bucket man???
is it 1 oft those 20 ltr 1s??
take care
b

[drumin]

Thanks CB, you rock! :greatjob:

Q. So, how old is that plant?
Q. what node are you bending at?
Q. How far above the node do you bend it?

[CB]

Dre.... couldnt find a pic of the 43 legged spider plant so just gonna have wait and see what this one ends up with :D

billo it's a 5 gallon bucket. not sure on the conversion to ltr's soz


drumin no problem.... forgot how much fun lst is and it has been a couple years like since i did the last one

not sure how old the plant is for sure but around 3 weeks or so and your other 2 queston's a will answer with this piccy

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4799&stc=1&d=1152456652


well it's been less than 24 hours under the 1k hps and the plant looks like this now

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4800&stc=1&d=1152456652

time to pin it back down some... allso notice what the secondary's have done allready compared to yesterday :eek:

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4801&stc=1&d=1152456652

here's a side view of how tight it is tied down

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4802&stc=1&d=1152456652

grow on

[gorilla]

you fucking rock at this, cb.

:band: :peaceman:


edit: btw... is it a she?

[drumin]

OK, so you bend it about 1/2 inch from the soil? Pretty fuggin cool. :gthumb:

[Dooby420]

Can't wait to see what this baby will grow into :D

Rock on CB :rockon:

[CB]

gorilla... not 100% sure it's a fem but have had pretty good luck with this bucket as well as strain :D

drumin... yep 1/2 to 1 inch works great ;)

Dooby420 i cant wait my self hehe

here's today pic at 9pm

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4831&stc=1&d=1152582296

and at 9:05;)

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4832&stc=1&d=1152582296

check out those secondarys :eek: hehe

fan leafs get pin'd down as well

grow on

[tHEaNIMICnEEDLE]

nice,

Did somethin similar with string and tied down a bushy plant in a spiral almost- twas for a micro grow in a 1x1x1 floro powered cab!!!!:eek: :eek: :cool:
for anyone else trying:
from experience, only prob is try and be careful watering as the leaves are so close to the soil, can entice mold and buggers... but im sure CB knows that ;)

he also knows the beast that will grow into!:D

[CB]

say TAN them micro grows are cool :D seen some amazing things done in 1 sq foot ;)

good point on the mold bro one must spend time with there plant when ya tie em down this tight to the soil.....

i usally unleash them once a week and let em reach up for the light and breath a bit and air out..... will be doing that in the next few days like;)

string will be used as well in time ;)

didnt move much today just adjusted a bit

secondarys are come'n on now and just wait till ya see what i do with them :eek:

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4847&stc=1&d=1152667082

grow on

[gorilla]

secondarys are come'n on now and just wait till ya see what i do with them

I think by the end of this thread i'll know wtf i'm gonna do to my plants next time. Can't wait for the fucking thing to grow more CB, for my sake. :o

[drumin]

I have so many questions but I think they'll be answered in time. Mold was one of them but someone beat me to it. Hurry up and grow more damnit! :jail:

[CB]

G.... it grew some more :D

drumin.... if i get past a part that ya have a ? on just yell k.

i let the plant up for 24 hours then repined it along with the secondarys

didnt get a pic of the strech but it raised up about 4-5 inches.... will get a pic when i feed next as this is a good time to let the plant up and out of the way ;)

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4889&stc=1&d=1152918936

[gorilla]

Nice going CB.

Looks like she'll reach the end of that bucket soon. :hmmmm: :p

[CB]

Nice going CB.

Looks like she'll reach the end of that bucket soon. :hmmmm: :p

thx G-mang

sure hope it does and more ;)

grow on

[CB]

just adjusted the ties abit...

pic pretty much tells the story ;)

back soon with more updates

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5042&stc=1&d=1153100740

grow on

[Dooby420]

WOW look at those secondarys already :eek:

Looking great CB 2thumbs

[gorilla]

didnt get a pic of the strech but it raised up about 4-5 inches.... will get a pic when i feed next as this is a good time to let the plant up and out of the way

Did the plant literally grow 4 inches while being free, or do you mean it bent itself 4-5 inches up off the dirt?

[StoninStanley]

holy crap cb that is precise. you should see my lst's i just use string and duck tape lol its ghetto but it works

[CB]

bent itself 4-5 inches up off the dirt?

thats what i meant :D

will get a pic of it next time G-mang

thx all for stop'n in

[drumin]

That's some good growth you got in 6 days... :notworth: what nutes and soil are you using?

[gorilla]

what nutes and soil are you using? Got to admit, I'm curious as well. Growth seems to be real regular and real healthy for you. Nice fan leaves.

[CB]

G-mang and drumin....

I only use foxfarms ocean forest soil and growbig for veg and tigerbloom and bigbloom for flower.....been test'n there beasty bloomz out as well :eek:

really like there line of products and highly recommend them :D

gotta love them humbolt county boys ;)

well let the plant up for 24 hours or so and fert'd it max dose with growbig

the streach
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5059&stc=1&d=1153266613

and a bit of hanky panky and it looks like this :eek:

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5060&stc=1&d=1153266613

grow on

[Fred Lemonjello]

Got her rangled back down I see Cheapo.... man she's lookin purty damned good thar!!
:D

Fred

[gorilla]

Does she ever give you trouble going back down after the 24 hours? I'm sure she stiffens/straightens up real quick.

[CB]

Does she ever give you trouble going back down after the 24 hours? I'm sure she stiffens/straightens up real quick.

nothin i cant handle G-mang ;)

piccy is worth a thousands words no? ;)

I am the master and you will grow how i say :p

[Fred Lemonjello]

:flog: :watch:


Fred

[gorilla]

rofl :laugh:

[billo]

excellent
nice thread
hope u dont mind but i got some seedlingd im gunna copy this style on


peace
b

[drumin]

I hear quite a few people use Fox Farms nutes... I'll have to check out their soil. Thanks for the info CB

[CB]

billo please do copy this methode :D and if ya like it then share with those that are in the dark like ;)

drumin no prob mang.... foxfarms is some good stuff alltho it's not 100% organic it's close enough for me... lucky me i done live far from humbolt county soil the price is good on soil here ($11) but most have to pay around 20 a bag for soil do to ship'n cost :mad:

grow on

[CB]

just been repin'n and shape'n the plant the way i want it :D

first out of the bucket is the first nodes... they seem to be doing pretty good compared to a plant that is just grown straight up...

gonna break out the string and weights real soon :eek:

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5083&stc=1&d=1153518109

grow on

[drumin]

String and weights!!! :yikes::flog:

[high2dsky]

cb,


im mos def book marking this thread . cb, where can i get the fox farm soil at? would like to use this on my next grow.:watch: :greatjob: :mmmm:

[slater]

this is my first post on this forum. i was just courious why you let the plant straighten up for 24 hours and then pin it back down. i am assuming for growth spurts....am i close?

nice thread ya have here....cant wait to see the finale

[drumin]

Hey Slater, welcome to HGB! :cheers:

You can change your mood from lonely now! ;)

[CB]

drumin tiss all good mang :D just want to fool around with mother nature a bit and i wont hold back at all :cool1:

high2dsky nice to see ya about bro.... I get FF pruducts at my local hydro store.... I'm on the west coast and not far from them so price is good here ;)

11 bucks for ocean forest soil here but can go as high 22 or so in some places :eek: but it is a easy to use line of nutes and soil IMHO

slater the untie'n does 2 thing's.... lets the plant raise up off the soil for water'n and feed'n as well as let'n the plant streach it's legs a bit (or a growth spurt) ;)

well got the string wire and twist ties out and adusted a few things as well as used a few pins for weights..... will get close up's if anyone wants

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5090&stc=1&d=1153620705

grow on

[Dooby420]

Wow that baby is lookin gorgeous

right on CB

:rockon:

[gorilla]

I want them closeups if it's not too much trouble. :rolleyes:

Hey.... you asked. :cool:

[Cranky]

yo cb...looking damn fine there matey.great growth!!

you gonna do abit of neck twisting on them lower secondries?let the other branches catch up like;)

just a thought?

take care bro

cranky

[high2dsky]

high2dsky
11 bucks for ocean forest soil here but can go as high 22 or so in some places :eek: but it is a easy to use line of nutes and soil IMHO


grow on

good to know. will be using this on my next grow which will be up in the next 2 wks. ill post pics on how this soil works out. thanks mann. peace-

[high2dsky]

I want them closeups if it's not too much trouble. :rolleyes:

Hey.... you asked. :cool:

i second dat notion.:D

[CB]

Dooby420 thx bro ;)

gorilla no prob mang took a couple tonight

cranky... well duh bro :p done broke em like m8..... you know me :rolleyes: hehehehe

high2dsky think ya will like the FF lineup bro :D tiss good shit mang

to stoned to inline the pics soz :o

grow on

[drumin]

CB, did you break it's neck? Looks like the middle pic shows a break.

[CB]

CB, did you break it's neck? Looks like the middle pic shows a break.

yep sure did.... those are the first bottom nodes on the plant tho ;)

[Dooby420]

Hey CB,

this may be off topic :offtopic:

just a question about flushing: how long do you wait before you harvest to flush? one week or so? and how many times would you flush if you were using chemical nutes?

thanks

-DooB

[StoninStanley]

ive seen some growers say 1 week, some 2, some even 3. the real difference is in the smoke. a plant that was flushed at 1 week there may still be some chems in there you dont want, 2 weeks of flushing makes the smoke taste alot better IMHO. i think 3 weeks flushing before harvest might be taking it overboard and the plant may not have the nutes it needs to finish flower completely. but some say that the smoke is much cleaner, and one grower (elsewhere) says it produces the whitest ash he's ever seen after its burnt.

but i like to flush 2 weeks before harvest, and then at the end of 2 weeks maybe wait just a couple more days, let the soil dry out a little and let more a few more trichs turn amber.

[European weed fama]

hi all

So CB, your growing this fine plant of yours indors... would it work outdors as well because im definetly doing that aswell

Keep smoking

European weed fama

[CB]

Dooby with chem nutes i would flush twice...2 weeks into flower(or after the streach) and about 10 days before harvest....... I just flush once with FF before harvest....

StoninStanley yep i think 3 weeks is a bit much as well but i have never tried it....

European weed fama works great outdoors and alot of peeps do this in there yards or veggie gardens for stealth ;) .....

started 12/12 and adjusted pins ties and weights abit :D

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5144&stc=1&d=1153826781

grow on

[gorilla]

Finally, We get to see it stretch. :D Been waiting for this.

In your experience CB, how does this strain of yours stretch initially?

Can't wait to see what you do bro; and for christ's sake i hope it's a female. :chick:

[StoninStanley]

thats some nice lst there bro, are those stakes the same kind as for tents?

[drumin]

So CB, I assume this was a clone and you mentioned it was around 3 weeks old before you started the LST which means you only vegged it for about 45 days. Does that sound about right? 3 weeks before LST, 3 weeks of LST and then into flowering?

[CB]

G-mang the streach is about normal like ;) gonna start let'n the bud sites grow upwards soon.... and ya it's a she ;) like i said before been breed'n this plant for a bit and pretty much know what is what around 3 weeks into veg :D

StoninStanley thx mang..... nope not tent stakes..... first post cover's the stakes with piccys... I'm cheap and make my own when i can :D

drumin never assume bro :D plant is from seed and normally i would start lst at 10 days or so from seed. wasnted gonna lst at all but seems a few peeps wanted info so i did one.... as for time i dont keep records like so may be off a few days or so... would have started flower'n at 4 weeks as per my norm but wanted some time with this plant for this thread....last one i did was 40 inches across with over 40 real nice cola's..... tiss what cranky calls my 42 legged spider:D ....

grow on

[drumin]

I can't wait to see this thing flowering!! :mmmm:

[CB]

just been move'n the pins and ties and weights abit as the plant starts it streach :D

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5192&stc=1&d=1154106199

grow on

[drumin]

Are you weighing down branches that hang over the edges? What's the point of that instead of letting them grow upward?

[gorilla]

Are you weighing down branches that hang over the edges? What's the point of that instead of letting them grow upward?
Signature

Yeah, I second that.
Also, what are you doing with the main top? Letting her grow upwards yet or do you train straight outwards? Can't tell from the pic.

[CB]

Are you weighing down branches that hang over the edges? What's the point of that instead of letting them grow upward?

yes I am.... and the point is there not ready to go up yet :D 3-4 more days before that;)

G-mang the main is tied out flat still cept those 2 fans stick'n up a bit....

hang tight for a couple more days and then the party will start

grow on

[drumin]

:bday: A PARTY!! Right on!! :mosh:

[Vortex]

I must say awesome thread. ( I haven't had any time to get online of late too freakin busy)

I will be giving this a try with my WW clone. I've read about this many times, but this is by far the best info I've seen on LST.

Great Job!!!!

[CB]

Vortex thx and i hope the info is usefull to you

well all done tie'n the plant out so now it's upward like from this point on.

gonna try and keep it tied the way it is as it finishes the strech cycle but let it grow upward ;)

probly around week 3 i wont bother to try and keep it tied down as there really isnt any point after that...

couple pics from today.... bottom of pic is bottom of plant

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5228&stc=1&d=1154280961

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5229&stc=1&d=1154280961

grow on

[dredank]

amazing plant cb, i remember when you helped me with one of my plants, it looked just like that:D

tragedy i never harvested the plant but it probably would have been a good yield for sure

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5230&stc=1&d=1154282748

peace
dre

[CB]

say dre,

wont be harvest'n this plant either... well cept for pollen :rolleyes:

took miss CB up to the growroom the other day to see whats what..... kinda blind in 1 eye so erm.... It's a boy :eek:

pic is 2 days ago and plant is outside with a white willow male and a k2 male ;)

will update on the lst untill i kill him :D

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5274&stc=1&d=1154725594

grow on

[drumin]

Well that sucks CB. Was it hermie or full on male?

Well, at least it was a good teaching tool!! :bananna:

[gorilla]

aww.... what a bummer! :shake:

gr.. :mad3: you said it'd be a female CB! you're fired!

:halol:

[Dooby420]

I killed my males and hermies yesterday... all going to my goo batch! :teef:

[billo]

spewin bout the balls man
i have 1 i started a lill b4 yours and noe i ave removed the straps
repotted her into the ground and will see how she goes from here
hope u gunna do another with a proven female cut
im very interested to see the yield off this style

peace
billo

hope u dont mind me throwin up a pic

[CB]

hope u dont mind me throwin up a pic

dont mind at all :D

was gonna post a couple more pics up but been busy and forgot :rolleyes:

usaly bout 3 weeks into flower i let the plant go and do it own thing....

gonna start another plant soon tho

[drumin]

gonna start another plant soon tho
:bananna: :beat: :jam: :dance: :roll: :goofy: :shuby: 2thumbs

[high2dsky]

very nice cb, will be watching and learning from the technique. cant wait to use this method on my current grow.

[drumin]

So CB (and anyone else who does and LST, do you keep her tied down all through flowering?

[CB]

So CB (and anyone else who does and LST, do you keep her tied down all through flowering?

nope....I let em go around 4 weeks into flower as there pretty much set in there way by then..

[high2dsky]

So CB (and anyone else who does and LST, do you keep her tied down all through flowering?

nope....I let em go around 4 weeks into flower as there pretty much set in there way by then..


good to know , cuz i've done this technique once but left the ties on not knowing i was able to take them off. 4 weeks into flowering u say. good answer. thanks. peace.:watch: :watch: :share: