Amature Needing Help

[charleyfool]

Hey guys.

Well, I attempted germinating two of my seeds, thankfully, one of them worked.:)

So, Ive put the seed in a small pot of soil, and the soil is just under a lamp that is running 40 watts.
(which I hope is enough light)

This is my second day now witht he plant, and this is my first time ever growing it, so I really have no idea that Im doing everything right, lol.
Id appreciate it if you provided me with any tips, or help on growing it.

Im watering it twice a day, and leaving the lamp running constantly.
(hoping that is the right thing to do)

Im getting some plant food, but how much do you apply to the plant?
(e.g. once a week, one every two days.)

Id greatly appreciate it if you guys could help me. :D

Thanks.. ;)

[CB]

say there,

happy to help all growers here :D

what kind of light is that 40 watter?

water'n twice a day is over kill and will kill ya plant :eek:

first off we will need to know alot more about your setup.... how big is the pot and is it above soil. type of light and size of grow cab....

Jr. put togather a pretty nice grow guide to get any new grower up and running
it can found in the header of all pages here ;) give that a read first

most good soil will do ya for 2 week before any nutes are need and if ya transplant a couple time's in veg might only need to hit em a couple times untill flower'n....i feed every other water'n which is at least 3-4 days between water'n so it's like at least 1 time a week or so.... start the nute's at like 1/4 strenth they recomend and work ya way up from there

grow on

[charleyfool]

Haha shit, okay.. well, then I'll keep down on the watering.
Oh, and speaking of wich, what im doing is putting half a glass full of water, and a tiny bit of plant food and poring the water in.. So, I'll do it once every four or five days i guess.

The lamp is 40 watts. lol

The pot is really the size of your fist around, so its quite small.. but Im sure it will fit the plant properly.

Thanks for the reply tho. :)

But could you be more detailed on what I need to do, cause I really have no idea what im doing. lol

[ZenLunatic]

Greetings charleyfool! Welcome to HGB :)

You're in good hands with CB here so I'm just gonna hang and read on...

Good luck my friend, sounds like you're well on your way..

Good green mojo to you...

zL

[CB]

say bro read THIS (http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8)

kinda hard to help ya with alot more info

half glass of water and 40 watt light doesnt tell us much....

I drink from a 64 oz glass like and my fist are huge :eek: ... see what i mean? ;)

have a read of that link first like.... alot of good info for a first time grower there ;)

grow on and welcome to HGB :D

[charleyfool]

Haha very good point. But I'll read the link you offered me. :) Thanks anyways. I greatly appreciate you replying. :D

[charleyfool]

Hah holy shit, that guy sure knows alot, and a great way to put it.

Thanks alot :D

But unfortunatley, i didnt see how much watering is required.. other then reading "dont over water your plants"

So if your saying, water your plants once every 4-5 days, how much plant food is required, and how much water?

[CB]

once the cotys die (around week 2) i start them on a light feed around 1/4 strenth of what it says on the bottle.....I use foxfarms products

when i water i try for 10% run off out the bottem.... for me and my soil in a 5 gallon bucket is 1 gallon of water which yeilds about 1 cup of run off.... just a start point for ya to give ya an exsample....

i wait till pot is dry top to bottom before i water again.... this makes the roots search for water(bigger root ball bigger plant)

i use the lift method to determine this.... is it heavy or is it light?

better to have a plant wilt first from lack of water than to much water IMHO

peace

[bald1]

Whatever nutrients you buy for your plant should come with intructions for dilution rates.

Mix up say around 1 ltr of food as per instructions and then pour 1/4 of it into another containter. Then fill that container to make up 1ltr of nutrients which is quater strength which is perfect for young seedlings that are 2 weeks old or more ;)

Try to water once a week and feed once a week, in soil you only need to feed em once a week.

Hope that helps a little,
peace,
bald1.

PS, Just out of curiosity, what type of light bulb are you using? Is it a normal type light or one of those energy saving bulbs?

[charleyfool]

Its a normal light, just a small lamp I have. (40 Watts.)

And thanks for the reply. :D

[charleyfool]

Here, lets say I have a small cup that is roughly 4 inches in hight, and 4 inches around.. (the average size of a cup) Hard to explain, but just try to get what kind of cup im saying.

If I was going to use that as my water supply, how much food would I put into it? (rough estimate) and how much of water should I pour into the plant..

Cause I am extremley confused on what you mena by 1/4 this, and a litre of food.. ect. lol sorry, just.. this is the first time for me ever doing this, and Im very couscious that I might mess it up..:o

[bald1]

First off, please replace that bulb for one of the energy efficiant bulbs. Not for reasons on saving electric but because that bulb you have is a waste of time, it's the wrong light spectrum for your plant and won't help your plant an awful lot ;)

Tell you what, worry about how much water to food ratio when you get some food, then everything I posted above will make sense to ya, no one will post shitty guess's on how much food to mix with a glass of water without knowing what food you have brought, they are all different ya know ;)

Does that help?
peace,
bald1.

[charleyfool]

KK, will do. And thanks. :D

Oh, and I got the food already, lol.. I took like 1/4 a teaspoon (very little amount of food)

Mixed it with a cup of water, and then poured it in.

Im hoping that will do as a good amount, if not.. How much should I put in?

And I can tell you waht kind of food I got, lol.. But what exactly do you need to know?

And thanks alot again for replying, great help! :D

[gorilla]

What's up charley. I think you're looking for some normal speak.

Your pot is the size of your fist, and I'd say my fist is roughly the size of a cup, which is what you're watering from. When you water, lift your pot from the ground somehow so that as you water, you can see when it starts to drip out the bottom. This is what you're looking for. Let a little runoff, and your plant should have enough water. At this point, You don't need to water again until the dirt is dry. Stick your finger in the dirt, if it's mostly dry about maybe an inch down, It's time to water again. For a new seedling in a cup full of dirt, it should probably take a good 2 days for the dirt to dry up. - I've gone through a whole grow with nothing but water, don't fuss too much about plant food. But, so you know, when mixing plant food do it in liters or gallons. IE. If your food mix is 1teaspoon per gallon.. You mix 1tsp of food into a gallon of water, shake, and only feed what's necessary. The extra may be a waste but unless you can convert the feeding formula, this is the basic way to go about it. What food are you using? 1/4 tsp/cup may be a bit strong.

As far as your light is concerned.. The 'energy saving' bulb that was mentioned before is a fluorescent light. You know, Those spiral-looking bulbs that people use in their houses now because they are brighter, last longer, and require less electricity. Also, they give off a great spectrum of light for cannabis. If you look around this forum, you're gonna see some guys have some REALLY powerful lights. Lighting is one of the most important things in a setup.

Now, i'm gonna level with you: All of us here want you to grow some dank fuckin herb, i'm sure of that. But you did step into this process ill-prepared. I want to to know right now that if this plant doesnt work out for you, don't get bent out of shape. Next time you'll know how to water, have a nice light set up, and a room to keep your plant in. Knowlege is key here. Growing weed is easy, and your plant will probably live and grow; however in order to really harvest a decent amount of a good herbs, you are going to have to put some money, thought, time, and effort into this. It's all an adventure, and I don't think even small forums like this would have hundreds of members if it werent a hell of a lot of fun.

Please enjoy, and keep asking questions. Right now, you just gotta catch up with yourself because that plant is ALIVE now and believe me, they don't wait for US. Hahaha. :D

[CB]

I took like 1/4 a teaspoon (very little amount of food)

Mixed it with a cup of water, and then poured it in.



what kind of food and what did it say on how much to feed?

uselys says like this amount per gallon of water....

start with 1/4 of what it says in the amount of water it says ;)

name of food and NPK ratio is all that is needed

grow on

[charleyfool]

CB, its called Miracle Gro, and its 15-30-15 ;)

[charleyfool]

Whoa, thanks for the enormous reply Gorilla! Greatly appreciated.

Couldnt of put it in better words. :D
So, I guess water once every 2 days, if the dirt is very dry..

And yep, im using that same exact bulb you are talking about. :)
Glad I got something going right, lol. ;)

Haha, and thanks.. Luckily I still got another 4 seeds.
Ive stored them in the freezer, i read some where that you can keep them for a long time by doing so.

Much, much thanks for helping me!

[bald1]

Make and brand, and don't forget the N.P.K rating too, in fact tell us everything lol

What does it tell you to mix on the instructions, 1/4 tsp could well be too much bro, they are there for a reason ya know :D If you find it is too much then just flush plenty of plain water through the soil to wash the nutrients away, then start again with a good mix ;)

How old is your seedling, like how long as it's head been sticking outta the soil? you don't need to feed it for the first two weeks, and after that you only feed with weak food till the roots get stronger, if you try to feed the seedling too much food you could kill it by burning the roots, too much love will kill your baby

Good luck man. I'm off to bed now cause it's 4am and I need to see if I can get some shut eye. keep us posted on your adventure into the wonderfull world of canna cultivation. In the mean time, hit your bong or roll a fat one and dome some reading around the site, you'll be suprised on how quick you pick up this wonderfull hobby :share:

peace,
bald1.

[CB]

Its a normal light, just a small lamp I have. (40 Watts.)

And thanks for the reply. :D

say bro your still not give'n enough info on the light soz

should say on it what it is

normal usa 40 watt desk lamp type bulb is useless IMHO

40 watt flo or cpf will work fine to start tho (like 10 days of veg or so )

[charleyfool]

Ah shit!! Ive just had my seed in their for about 2 days now!!

And a white curl has just began to show..

So what your saying is I can water it as normal, like once every two days, or when ever it gets dry, but no feeding it until 2 weeks?

[gorilla]

Ah shit!! Ive just had my seed in their for about 2 days now!!

And a white curl has just began to show..

So what your saying is I can water it as normal, like once every two days, or when ever it gets dry, but no feeding it until 2 weeks?

Hey man, are you talking about a taproot? I was under the impression that this plant was already growing.

This is a great example shot of a taproot, taken by one of our local lunatics. :D
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2091&d=1140913051

If you're only at this point, BACK OFF. Before you do anything, just keep the soil moist as instructed before, and let it sprout and grow some green leaves before you do anything else other than water.

Look at it this way: In about a month, if you don't kill it :p , your plant will be a foot tall or so. At this point, if you flowered it, it would still take roughly another two months before you can harvest. Basically my point is, sit back and enjoy the ride. One of the most frusterating things about growing is sometimes, there's nothing you can do but wait. Get used to it. :D

[ice#1]

if you are useing a regular light bulb get you a compact flouresant it is far better than a normal light bulb

[Mr. Bud]

Here are some stats on the florou's you want to use..

CF105/27K - 105 WATT CFL 2700K
Substitute for a 500 watt incandescent
Quantity Price
1 + $ 36.99
Specification Value
Lamp Type CMPCT FLRSNT
Base Type MEDIUM
Volts 120
Watts 105
Lumens 6720
Color Temp 2700
Rated Life (hrs) 10000
Max. Length (in) 12


I use a regular 4 foot shop light to start mine. I just started my plants about 3 weeks ago as clones. Did have one seedling that is doing fantastic... The lights that I use once they take root and are transplanted into their 2 1/2 gallon pots is a system from Sunleaves. This is an 8 light system made for vegging but because of the wide light spectrum, from blue to red, they can also be used for flowering... These lights work well because of the fact that you can keep them about 2 inches above the plants. They put off very little heat; actually, they put off just the right amount of heat to keep my room about 75 to 80f. So far I have been very happy with them... Sorry, you are in the first stages so I would look for a set up like I showed above.. You can get these lights from Wal Mart, Home dept, or Lowes.. I just bought two from Lowes last week to put at the base of my plants to help fill them out.. I think I spent about $8 bucks... Don't let anyone tell you that you can't grow good bud with flouro's, if you set up right you can grow just as good as any system out there.. Side note, clones don't look to good... They got a case of spider mites early on and I treated them with 50% ISO and 50% water with a few drops of dish soap.. They are working there way back but maybe worth nothing more then the trash.. Leaving them in with my three new clonse and my seedling..

The picture of the seedling was taken the same day I transplanted... This is about how big she was... Hopeing for a she that is... :watch:

[Mr. Bud]

Heres a more recent picture of my little girl, she is doing well... The clones look like they are locked up to me... Wondering if I will even get a little mini bud off of them.. The last photo is of one of the clones that I had to treat for spider mites when it was young.... ?? Any thoughts....

[ILoveWeed]

Hey Mr. bud, that one sure looks nice and tight.

Can't really see the clones to say anything about lockup.

Don't they say that light is the equivalent to a 400HPS?? And can't you mount them vertically also I think I heard.

Totally cool though dude. Rock on.

ILW

[Mr. Bud]

The first two photos are of my baby the third is of one of my clones that I treated for mites and the fourth photo is of a clone that is on schedule.... Do they look messed up? I think the clones that I had to treat for mites should be about 4 inches taller and more filled out by now... Took them from cloner two weeks ago and transplanted into those pots... Just looked to me like they should be growing faster... I thought it looked like it was starting to fill out, just stunted I think.. (third photo)

[gorilla]

I don't know what to tell from the pics. :P

I take it the clone's parent did not grow this way? Unless you get better advice, all ya can do is wait to see what happens. :p keep us updated.

[Gr8Hit]

I saw the pics and it looks like you are doing just fine.
I had the exact same problem but when treating that low you may loose the growth on lower spots. Just plant a little deeper and that way your growth is still a few inches from the top of your container.

[Vortex]

They looking good to me from the pics, keep on growin

[Mr. Bud]

you can run these flouro's vert. or horiz. If you add two of these systems they will produce the same as a 1000w hps.. Actually with a higher red sect. and a wider overall light spectrum.. I did take them out after veg and put them under a MH.. Here is a couple of shots at week 5.