Gorilla's jungle

[gorilla]

Welcome to my journal everyone. Here I will be documenting my experiences with some of my own seeds. The 'father' was a hermaphrodite Northern Lights, and there were 4 mothers. Two northern lights, and two Oaxacan sativas. The Northern lights produced some pretty tight, crystally, potent weed; And the sativas created a lot of ugly, hairy weed. My goal for this grow is to find at least one healthy mother, and learn how to push my closet to it's gardenening limit.

In my mind I consider what I have to be 3 different strains, as each of these plants were very different phenotypes. What I have is:
A purple NL x NL.
A very beautiful green NL x NL
A nice buzz, orangy-lemon sativa x NL
The 4th mother I mentioned was another sativa which produced the "ugly" weed. None of these seeds germinated, and I don't consider this a loss.

6 seeds of each were planted. All except for the one fluke strain showed great success rates, 15/18 in total.

In picture one, you can see how they are all sitting under a single 42 watt CFL.
The lot of them is displayed in picture two. If you look closely you can see i've got twins AND a trifoliate. How about that!
Picture three is a closeup of my twin babies. ( Actually i'm not so sure what to do about these guys, any suggestions? )

I'll be around.

[CB]

look'n good G-mon

is that twins from 1 seed?


Edit: Gosh!! I wasn't sure what to put the title as.. And I just threw in "asdf" so I could preview it a couple times. My stoned ass forgot all about it and submitted the thread. What a way to start a journal!

I can change that anytime ya want ;)

grow on

[gorilla]

is that twins from 1 seed? Yessir they are.

If you could, CB.. Change the title to the same as the title on my first post: Gorilla's jungle. Better than 'asdf'. :o

[CB]

Yessir they are.

If you could, CB.. Change the title to the same as the title on my first post: Gorilla's jungle. Better than 'asdf'. :o

title fixed bro..

think i would just let em grow... see what happens

grow on

[ice#1]

you should have 5 phenotypes one for each of the parents unless you had 2 clones each ie 2 clones of the o.s and 2 of the n.l
cool pic of those twins it will be intresting to see if they flower the same or not

[bigsmoker420]

nice going ill be watching this one

[Cranky]

best of luck to yas on this one bro.shall also be following along to;)

fancy a banana:D

cranky

[LdyLunatic]

i shall join yous also http://www.emotihost.com/ver1/funny/3.gif damn G....stop with the peels already :p

[gorilla]

Back again.

Thanks for fixing that for me CB, anything was better than "asdf".
Hey ice, yeah i'm going to take CB's advice and yours and just let them grow how they are. I've got my fingers crossed for when I flower them.
Bigsmoker, Thanks for watching and popping your head in dude.
And as far as cranky and LadyL? If you've got a problem with the bananas, you best as well leave right now. :p

I tried to wait a little bit before I posted again, so that the plants could do at least a tiny bit of growing and I wouldn't show up with an empty reply for you all.

First, the plants. They're growing well but will soon need more light.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4279&stc=1&d=1152498975

Then, just for a keepsake, a baby picture of my twins and trifoliate. I'm very excited about both.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4277&stc=1&d=1152498975

Lastly, A shot of the soil, perlite, and tray i'll be transplanting them all into.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4278&stc=1&d=1152498975

I'll post again when things have progressed enough to be worthwhile. :)

[bigsmoker420]

lookin nice there imma be updating some pics of my grow soon so check it out sometime

[tHEaNIMICnEEDLE]

awesome!

[dredank]

looking good G, gotta love those mutants:D

peace

[gorilla]

Got around to going to the store.. Bought some nutes.
Brand named "Cornucopia Plus". Was fed a very interesting story from the guy working, and i'm always a sucker for something nobody else has. - You can find more detailed information on the website, here. (http://cornucopiaplus.com)

Transplanted them all, Killed one sativa, and gave them their first dose of nutes. We'll see how things go.

[gorilla]

As you can see, things have progressed a bit. I transplanted them, I started feeding them, and just today, I upgraded the light bulb to an "eye hortilux". As far as progress goes I am nothing but happy. The nutrients have really got my plants growing a whole lot faster than last time. Within a day or two after transplanting to square pots, every plant had big furry white roots poking out the bottom. And, to top it all off, from their first feed I don't think i've seen them put their arms down once. If you've ever had a happy plant I think you know what I mean.

I dont have much in the way of pictures, Sorry. Here is one just so that you can see how much they have grown. :) I'll get a real camera in a few days.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4372&stc=1&d=1153035728

[bigsmoker420]

thats looking nice there i wasnt gonna use any nutes on mygrow but i think i changed my mind if you can give me some info on some good nutes i can get i would appreciate it thanx and grow on peace

[gorilla]

Hi again everyone. Got a bit of a problem methinks.

A day or two ago, I noticed some discoloration forming on some of the plant's leaves. Not the new growth. This discoloration started from the first set of real leaves and seems to be working itself up.
At first, I seemed I noticed the leaves getting kind of sick looking in color, semi-translucent or even a tad "blue" in spots. This, unfortunately, has evolved into very light green/almost yellow leaves.

Here's a picture. Not very good, I hope it's enough.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4416&stc=1&d=1153273811

Overall: Yes, the plants still seem happy. But theres something wrong..
Feeding: Well, I may have been feeding too much, who knows. Been feeding at every watering, 3 times in a row. Since, i've fed once with water only and this problem showed itself even more! If this is the case, I will back off for a few waterings, and start feed/water/feed/water. Otherwise, i'm going to go straight into taking turns.
PH: I dont know if it's a PH issue. I didn't have this problem last time, or I just wasn't keen enough to spot it! I only have those pool PH testers. The strips with the colors. As far as I can tell my PH is around 6.8. it may be lower, but i dont think it's any higher.

Any ideas? I fear this is going to hurt a lot of my plants.

[CB]

Any ideas?

say G-mang

couple things come to mind here.....

not sure on how much of an upgrade ya did on lights? saw it was 42 watts cfl then hps but didnt see what that wattage change was (sun burn) allso you said ya been hit'n them with some nutes each watering (over dose)

i like the water feed water option best.... just adjust the strenth by what ya plant tell ya's (me thinks to much right now)

got 2 things changed around the same time, lights and ferts but i would say ferts is the prob from what i see

:2cents:

grow on

[gorilla]

Thanks for your help CB. They were under my old 400 HPS bulb for about a week before I upgraded the bulb to an eye hortilux 400. Showed no signs of stress until now.

Took a few photos, maybe you guys can help a newbie like me figger this out.

First, an infected plant, and a closeup of a leaf.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4422&stc=1&d=1150621055http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4423&stc=1&d=1150621055

And, for arguments sake, a picture of a healthy plant.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4424&stc=1&d=1150621055

I gave them another feeding of straight water today, hoping to maybe flush out any toxic buildup I may have caused from a supposed over feeding. We shall see!

On a happier note, Plants are still growing. Tons of roots coming outta the bottom of the pots, especially on the plants not suffering any stress at the moment. :)

[gorilla]

PH issue? Nute burn? Nitrogen difficiency? Sun burn? Do my plants have recessive albino genes? What's going on guys and how can I fix it? :P

In order to describe the problem more: It's almost as if the plant is SUCKING the green straight out of the leaves. With my limited knowlege, I thought the green in your leaves in veg was a NITROGEN thing, is this the problem? I have Alaska Fish Fert 5-1-1 not being used, this is pretty high in nitrogen. Is a singular feeding or a foliar feeding worth it?

[RedEyezzzzz]

Hey Gorilla. I'd say in this case it would be a nitrogin def. Could just be a picky ass plant as your other looks damn fine. You can eliminate sun burn off your list as it would effect the top leaves initially. Just do a hand check, put your hand where the top of your plant for 10 seconds and if you find it hot then add more space between plant & light.
Then do a PH test on your tap water to make sure it falls into a safe zone. If you don't have a ph tester then you can pick up those little ph strips for dirt cheap at a plant store.
Personally I would try & up the nitro. levels in the feedings. I'm not familiar with using alaska fish fert as I only use general hydroponics nutrient solutions.
Hope this helps.

[reubeni]

Its just sometime times like that bro, just wait a bit and as they say" it will all come right in the wash" dont panic!;)

[gorilla]

Alright then. So, next feeding, tonight, I will feed them again the solution i've been using. Maybe a bit weeker, but they've had two straight water feedings in a row now. If this doesnt help, I will wait till the next time to fert, and either try a high-nitrogen foliar feed or add some to my mix or feed alone. Dunno what yet.

Problem is definately persisting, and i've got 15 plants that need to be transplanted REAL soon. Let me tell you one thing, guys, As far as roots go, THESE NUTRIENTS ROCK. Haha. I'm not sure if it's just ALL nutes, as i'm a newbie, but i've got so many more roots than i ever had last grow. Within like a WEEK of being transplanted to this tray, i've got a tight ass dirtball with fat white, fluffy, hairy roots all over.

My problem is definately in the leaves, not the roots. :P

So, now i'm wondering what to transplant to. Just need something to finish out VEG and give these plant enough time to grow tall enough for me to top&clone. We shall see!

Thanks for sticking with me, hopefully you're right reubini and my plants just grow through this. If it's a nitrogen deficiency, well, at least i KNOW. Last time I had way too much nitrogen in my soil, go figure!! :eek:

Have a good one, things are quite strange here! :)

[gorilla]

Transplant number two. Pots aren't large, but i'll only need them for a few weeks.

A shot of the plants before...
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4500&stc=1&d=1150874470

Roots. Not bad for 10 days in this container.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4501&stc=1&d=1150874470

And, the plants as they are now.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4502&stc=1&d=1150874470

Sorry for the lousy pictures, that's all I got. Going to stop worrying about the yellow for now. :shrug:

[gorilla]

Not worried about the yellowing anymore, An increased shot of "grow" in the feeding seemed to stop it from happening.

Now, onto my next mishap. Seems i miscalcuated about how long I should wait to switch to the next feeding formula. By direction, I'm supposed to use "formula x" for two weeks before inital bloom. My plants are about 10 inches tall on average already, and this is how tall I wanted to flower them.
So, I will be topping them all sooner then expected, to at least give me time w/out them growing much taller to feed them some "x".

Here's a pic of a plant, One of the taller of the bunch. I would like to get some opinions as to where I should top them and what would be healthiest for the plant.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4534&stc=1&d=1151371885

Reasons I ask are as follows: I want the clones to root healthily, I dont want to stress out my plants a lot, and of course, I want weed!

Would topping too low cause any physical problems for the plant, or yeild problems later on; and is my lower line TOO low? And, when topping, should I attempt to cut as close as possible to the internodes, or is it unimportant?

peace. :peace:

[gorilla]

Got a shot of the twins, they've grown up quite a bit. I'm happy to say they look very much alike. Also, i'm glad one isn't killing the other.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4566&stc=1&d=1151550286

Here's a shot of the garden, getting real cramped in there. Can't wait to weed out the males.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4567&stc=1&d=1151550286

And, i have ONE plant that's definately got something wrong with it. This plant was born retarded and.. well I don't even care, I think it's interesting.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4568&stc=1&d=1151550286
As you can hardly see from this picture, all of the new growth is really curled up. Honestly, looking at this plant, you'd swear it was a stem growing a bunch of weird, thick, hair-looking things. Or a retarded pot plant, one or the other. Another thing about this plant I just noticed, is how much more developed it's side branches are from the others. Any clue?

Plan on topping them all tomorrow morning.

[CB]

[CENTER]
And, i have ONE plant that's definately got something wrong with it. This plant was born retarded and.. well I don't even care, I think it's interesting.

indeed it is intersting :D

think the high tech peeps call it a poly(something) just a freak..... will be cool to see what it does ;)

i get a freak now and then myself

as for top'n seems ya want some clones out of the deal no?

looks like the bottom line will give ya 4-5

[gorilla]

Yes, I do intend on cloning them CB.

Gotta admit, your question made me iffy about whether or not I should do it tomorrow.

All I really figure, is two feet sounds like a good height for them to end up. I've given this some serious pothead thought.......... and I'm still not sure, so we shall see.
:share:

[bigsmoker420]

cant wait to see when there all budding nice job so far

[Old Timer]

Nice work fella

[AzGrowa]

I've given this some serious pothead thought.......... and I'm still not sure, so we shall see.

now there's an oxymoron if I've seen one.....
Serious pothead thought? :hmmmm:

I had a littlte freak a grow or two back... started alternating @ 2 week old, still had the coty's too.

[gorilla]

Hey guys, thanks for stopping by. I didn't clone them yet, I would've liked to but it's going to have to wait a few more days. Worse things could happen.

Got a couple new pictures though, I dont like to have an empty post. :)
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4604&stc=1&d=1151729836 http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4603&stc=1&d=1151729836

[bigsmoker420]

those are looking real good there

[gorilla]

Thanks bigsmoker, I'm like DYING to flower them, you have no idea.

I have a question guys, and I may ask this somewhere else as well: How big of a top is it safe to cut from a plant?

For example, if I had a 16 inch tall plant, and I really wanted it to be about 12 inches; would a 6 inch cutting from the top be quite harmful to the plant?

In all reality, I don't think any of my cuttings are going to be THAT large, 6 inches, but some may have to be a bit 'bigger than normal'. Before this question is answered, Let me say, I understand that cannabis is a weed and will live through practically anything; But I don't want my plant to just live, I want it to thrive.. I'm sure you understand. Hell, I accidentedly bent my outside plant completely in half, Within a few days it was fully upright again. :)

edit.. 16-6 does not equal 12. I just realized how stupid I wrote that. But, regardless, we'll just keep the question at 6 inches. If you want you can tell me if 4 inches is any better.

[bigsmoker420]

i dont think its a good idea cutting that much off i cut about an inch or so off mine

[Old Timer]

I just cut my mother off at 6 inchs so I'll let ya know in a week or so.

[gorilla]

Cut a good amount from each of them, topped them to the closest node to 12" as I could, and on average they were 16-17" tall. Plants didn't seem to skip a beat! :eek: Still look healthy as ever the next day.

Got all the tops in jiffy pellets... But my plans have changed. Got some great genetics coming my way soon, so I now really have very little need for the clones. Actually, little to none. :D It's still a learning experience.

Actually you want to hear something that a POTHEAD does? I topped all of the plants, Got all the clones in jiffy pellets, and then looked and said.... Wait, who's who? I DIDN'T KEEP TRACK. :o So now all I know is which top came from which kind of mother (NL, Purple NL, or NLxSat).. But i've got 6 of each. Luckily enough, The ony plant that REALLY grew a lot heartier than the others, and is female, I kept track of. At least I know that much..

So, Now i've got like 15 clones to experiment with. Maybe soon i'll force-flower them until they start to alternate or show sex, and then i'll hide them outside. See what happens.

Here's a pic.. And, BTW.. No idea why I used perlite on the tray. Wasn't so sure what to do, and I remember a picture of the Lunatics using perlite. So, that's what I did.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4752&stc=1&d=1152286652 http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4753&stc=1&d=1152286652

Yuuppp... Just a silly ass stoner still, just trying to grow some weed. :)

[Fred Lemonjello]

Lookin real good G Mon!
Jus make sure you keep the pellets moist... not soakin wet... jus damp.

WhatchyatalkinboutWillis.... no use fer the clones???.... I'll lay 20 ta 1 odds you grow em and smoke em! *giggles*
It's gunna be a while until those new arrivals are ready. :rolleyes:


Fred

[gorilla]

true that fredo.:cool:

[gorilla]

Started flowering July 9th, give or take a day. Don't remember exactly but july 9 is what i'm writing down.

Plants are doing well after I mutilated them. Some I noticed a slight increase in seconday growth, and in some I noticed extreme increase in secondary growth.

At this stage in the game, I guess the main focus is the male/female hunt. Although I am not too sure why a male dropping some pollen SO early into flowering is so detrimental to a grow, I have chopped 3 already. 2 of these, I believe, were males. The other was that strange "taco curled" plant, which I simply gave up on and was sick of watering.

On the other hand, I've labeled 4 females and given them primo light location. Funny thing, The first plant to show pistils only a few weeks into veg, has stopped producing pistils after I toppped "her". Now, I'm not so sure that the "preflowers" are female! Can a female plant be stressed into becoming a male just like that?

All in all, I feel the same way about this grow as I did the last one. Pretty much that feeling is: I can't wait till next time. :D Don't get me wrong, everything is doing okay and I've managed to keep the canopy pretty even, SO FAR. I'm a bit scared of the stretch over the next few weeks. I will keep update.

[CB]

Although I am not too sure why a male dropping some pollen SO early into flowering is so detrimental to a grow,

got a white willow that is gonna spew way to early here me thinks :rolleyes:

just like 3 weeks into veg and balls are turn'n yellow :eek:

doubt it will effect much unless i save the pollen for later

damn virgin's

grow on

[gorilla]

Wow, CB. Dropping pollen in veg? That seems so.. pointless! Stupid plant. :P

As far as my plants go, Felt that I should give more notice to how healthy they seem right now. Have only given one shot of bloom nutes so far. The morning after when I opened my closet, Everything looked different! All the leaves I thought were perfect got even greener, and I feel like there's more definition around the edges of the leaves. Maybe it's just vigor running to all ends of 'em. Point is they're looking great an i'm happy.

Most of the plants aren't stretching crazy which is making me happy, But a select few are/look like they're going to.

Still no roots on the clones. I give this up to temperate. It's very cold where I'm keeping the clones, and I just realized it the other night. A/C vent right next to that closet, and when it's one, the clones really chill out. I figure, if they're gonna root, it'll happen. A couple extra days don't bother me none.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4846&stc=1&d=1152672484

[Fred Lemonjello]

Tis Supreme lookin G Mon! :mmmm:
As long as the clones er still lookin lively nuthin ta worry bout.... chilly temps will slow thangs down a lil... be sure ta give em some fresh air too.


Fred

[CB]

Wow, CB. Dropping pollen in veg? That seems so.. pointless! Stupid plant. :P



ya mang :mad:

can allways hope it will contiue to grow and spew when the ladys are ready like;)

look'n real good

grow on

[drumin]

lookin good bro! What nutes are you using?

[gorilla]

Got a pic of the nutes on page two, I think drumin.

They're called Cornicopia Plus. Handmixed nutes so chances are pretty slim you'd be able to find them anywhere. Seem to be doing fine by me though.

[gorilla]

As the title suggests, I chopped 3 more plants tonight.

I have a bit of trouble determining males, so I've been pretty much waiting to see any sign of a flower forming more than one of something. If i see two of something forming and no hairs, sorry plant you're getting chopped.

Any suggestions on what to do with all of this leafage? Moreso, how do you store it?

[CB]

Any suggestions on what to do with all of this leafage? Moreso, how do you store it?

i donate it to the clinic for those that cant grow like.

[drumin]

How about a nice salad? let'em grow by themselves and then make oil with them!

[gorilla]

As far as the trim.. i'll figure it out. Might go ahead and try making some oil, seeing the new tuts around here for it. Doesn't seem so hard to make a little something.

As far as the plants go, Not much to report. Budding has pretty much commenced.. Even though there are no buds. First the nodes started to alternate hardcore, and now they're really tightening up. I can tell its happening.

Think I found another male, However I am hesitant to chop this guy. He's one of the twins. I was hoping both would be female, so that I could compare bud growth on two plants from one seed. However, I belive one is male and the other is female. Going to wait to make sure. I see balls, but only one per internode, and I've seen a ball produce a pistil. :P

Here's a pic. The taller one is the supposed male.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5034&stc=1&d=1153022236

By the way, the twins are significantly less bushy and thinner than the other plants. This, of course, is due to room for root growth.

[bigsmoker420]

pretty nice plant there gorilla nice and dark green

[CB]

pretty damn cool there G-mang

tiss just a couple of balls, i would cut em off and see what happens

just keep a close eye on it all thro flower ;)

get a few like that from my WR's but less all the time over the years :D

grow on

[gorilla]

tiss just a couple of balls, i would cut em off and see what happens

You'd cut them off now CB? That is, Before waiting to see if they form pistils or multiple sacks?

[Cranky]

yo g-man,looking good buddy;) as for trimming plants down...i just took the top 6 inch off both my blueberry's 7 days ago and alls fine now:)

as for cutting size.....if there to long then ya can always trim um down like;) i always trim down to about3-4 inch long and just leave 2 fans and the growth tip on as i find smaller cloners root quicker than larger ones;)

looking good,,great job!!

take care

cranky

[gorilla]

Thanks everyone for the good words.

finally transplanted them to their final homes. Was meaning to do this before I switched to flower, but a week+ in isn't so bad. :o

They went from maybe Quart-and a half homes, to two gallon grow bags. I really liked the transition, because the plants have a good 3-4 inches of new growing room beneat them. What's good about the grow bags is even though they're so much larger than the old pots, they take up the same amount of floor space; and I can keep the pots very close together w/out totally cramming the plants against each other.

At the moment, I have 8 plants flowering. Out of the twins, the one I thought was showing male is producing pistls! :eek: And, the other is now questionable. There are two more plants other than the twins that I'm unsure of. One, I'm thinking is a male. The other is still completely sexless.

It looks as if i'll be 6 or 7 plants this time. The more the merrier, however looking at my closet I've figured 6 is the ideal amount of plants I can grow.

Sorry for no pictures, Would have liked to take transplant shots but I don't have my camera today. In a few days I'll post shots of the plants in their new homes.

[drumin]

lookin forward to those pic G. :x:

[gorilla]

lookin forward to those pic G. Couldn't keep ya waiting drumin.

Here's a shot of a grow bag,
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5061&stc=1&d=1153277354
And the plant that it belongs to.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5062&stc=1&d=1153277354

Plants have been flowering 9 days now. Here's the first budshot. This is of a strangley Sativa dominant Northern lights.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5063&stc=1&d=1153277354

The next two pictures are a female flower, and a close-up of said female flower. Relatively good example shots of an early-flowering femme.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5064&stc=1&d=1153277354
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5065&stc=1&d=1153277354

To end it all, I took the best canopy shot I could manage. Hard to get into my closet due to the sliding doors, and anyone who uses HPS knows that it sucks for pictures.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5066&stc=1&d=1153277603



Thanks for stopping by.

[CB]

say G-mang,

look'n damn good indeed :D

but you know rules.... we cant have porn pics on HGB

at least 4 pubs like before ya pull there panties down :p

grow on bro

[Fred Lemonjello]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CB's post
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Super Sa-Weet shots there G-Mon!!!!
Jus Outstanding :D



Fred

[gorilla]

NO PORN. This is to include Lude, Rude, or Offensive images or links to images. This is not a place for it as we are here to discuss the Females in the Cannibis Family.

I belive i've found a loophole.


Thanks for the comments guys.:ciao:

[gorilla]

How sweet is this? Both twins are femmes. :rockon:
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5074&stc=1&d=1153331392

Just one more plant that's unknown, but totally looks female. That's 8, just where I wanted to be.

[bigsmoker420]

sweet bro good damn job there

[drumin]

Thanks for those pics bro! I'm lovin those twins! :)

[gorilla]

sweet bro good damn job there
I read this and was like.. really?? Hahah. Glad you like. Must be the nutes.

Thanks drumin. I think the twins are interesting. As far as Room for Root Growth correlates to plant size, I think these twins are a perfect example. Same seeds, same lighting, same everything. But put two plants in one pot, and they're going to be significantly thinner/smaller than any 1 plant in 1 pot. Obvious, But whatever.

They've looked very much alike all through veg and even till now. I can't wait to see them bud.

[gorilla]

Glad you like. Must be the nutes.

More on this. My nutrients are probably not top of the line, but i'm very impressed with them. Here's some info on how they work:

There are 4 parts: Grow, X, Bloom, and Energy.

Grow and Bloom are self-explanitory, and X is a Grow/Bloom nutrient - To avoid any mixing of A + B, and mostly to carry a plant through phases of it's life that aren't super-dependant on any one thing.
In my personal opinion, The key behind these nutrients is the "Necessary Plant Energy". What it's composed of is Organic Plant Acids. According to the reading material, Organic Plant Acids are a major key behind the metabolism of plants. Basically, these acids are the fuel which the plant's metabolism and uptake drives on. It's key features are to increase PH stability and root size. - I must say, That I agree it's doing it's job. I use it every feeding, 1 tablespoon per gallon. Even on 'only water' feedings I add some of this. It's not really a nutrient, more of an enhacer. I would love to try it with other nutrients.

http://www.cornucopiaplus.com/tricarb.html
Maybe later i'll type up the information I've got in a packet. It goes more indepth than this website does, and offers a lot of information about the way plants eat and grow.

Later for now.

Edit: Got around to typing all that up. You can find it Here. (http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12648#post12648)

[gorilla]

First watering in their new homes. Fuucaaaghhh.. What a pain. Was getting away with 3 cups per plant. Now i'm using a little more than half a gallon.

Devising a way to make watering easier as we speak. :rolleyes:

But here's something to keep your busy.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5076&stc=1&d=1153363281

[gorilla]

Grow room really upset the hell outta me tonight.

First thought: Wow, the plants are budding real nice!

Second thought: WTF is that?!?! :eek:

Noticed more than a few male sacks on more than a few plants. Five plants actually. Some had more growing than others, but regardless, they were there. This upsets me a lot and now i'm really questioning the reasons behind it.
1. Light leak. My room isn't 100% light proof. More like 95%. :/
2. Genetics. The father was a hermaphrodite. I am unsure if he was so because of genetics or otherwise.
3. Bad fucking luck!? God damn.

Now I haven't seen any pollen drop. But those sure didn't look like female flowers, and No hairs to be found. When ripped off, and ripped open, This 'male' flower opened up like an orange would. Slices.. like.
Another funny thing, I have 3 sativa dominant phenotypes. None of these have hermied (thusfar) on me. All 5 Indica dominant phenotypes have. I hope this is merely a strong genetic feature, and not a slower time clock.

Actually, I hope it stops happening completely. I cut off every thing I didn't like. I will check tomorrow at lights on to see if they've grown back, and if they're numbers increase. That is how it happened last time.

I DO NOT WANT TO GROW ONLY 3 PLANTS. *ROAR*

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[gorilla]

:/

So, out of the 5 I cut all the pollen sacks from, only two produced anymore. These two only produced like one or two, and i'm leaving them for right now to make SURE they're male flowers. I'll be closing a close eye on all 5 of these plants of course.

On another note, you're not going to believe this.
So due to negligence on my part, I lost my clones. I had no dome, it was too cold, i kept forgetting water/mist them, and i had no REAL use for them. Obviously, i'm not upset about losing them.
So I threw all of the clones into a garbage I had dumped the rootballs from a few male plants a day or two before.

Forgot all about them.

Today, I opened up that garbage can to throw away some garbage and something caught my eye... Looked like something was growing. :eek: Low and behold, pretty much the only clone that hadn't fallen out of it's peat pellet, was wicking up moisture from the male's rootball, and the clone rooted!

I salvaged it, cut off a leaf or two that had started to rot, and transplanted it. Its under a 42 watt CFL now in it's own pot. I know this is a clone of one of the twins. I dont know which.

Can you believe that? Clone wouldn't root when it was under a light. But, throw it in the garbage for a few DAYS, and it does. Haha.

Fuckin awesome. :D

[drumin]

:rotf: :high5: :winneris: :woohoo: :notworth:

[CB]

I'll be closing a close eye on all 5 of these plants of course.



how ever will you see them then :shrug:

:share:

:bananna:

grow on

[gorilla]

Closing a closed eye is a complicated science, CB, and I don't think you'd be able to understand it.

:halol:

[ndnguy]

Sorry to hear about the hermies, yup watch a close eye for sure or the other three are toast too. To bad you can't pull em tho, I just don't like the idea of any hermies in the garden, good luck bro...ndn:D Oh , I would get that growroom closed up 95% is not good.

[gorilla]

To bad you can't pull em tho, I just don't like the idea of any hermies in the garden

Oh, i can pull 'em! Was dumb enough to wait last time... :dunce: But I won't let that happen again.

Took out another plant tonight. That leaves 6. This was the only plant to show any male sacks today, and that was primarily my thought process. "If the others are getting better, and you're not, you don't deserve to live." :D

6 plants this size ( Ranging from 25" to 36" ) fit perfeclty in my closet. Actually, even with just 1 less ( Than the 7 I had this morning) this allows me to fit them in 3 rows of 2... And they are recieving primo light; Generally all the way to the bottom.

I expect a good yield from these plants, especially the sativas. Considering I am a bit familiar with both strains, I think I can see where some of the plants are going. The sativa phenotypes ( Namely the supertall sativa-type from my veg posts ) seem as if they will yield big fat colas like the Oaxacan Sativas did. However, they all have Northern Lights genetics in them and I'm hoping this will increase the potency.

If my NL phenotypes grow anything like last time, I won't have to worry. Plants are 100% Healthier and Happier than last time. They are basically the same size, However they are topped, and are in twice the amount of dirt. These things should come together to keep me stoned in the end.

No pics today folks, I apologize. ASAP I will get my camera again, to show you the bud formation. ( Yes, CB. The girls are old enough for some porno now. )

As you may have been able to tell ( Considering I've said it nearly every post thus far ) I am very happy with the progression this grow. Hermies aside, I couldnt ask for much more.

Welll.... Maybe some SUPER dank next time. :wow: :bong:


.. EDIT: Took out another plant tonight. That leaves 6. I forgot to mention.. I had to kill the twins as well. Both hermied big time.

[StoninStanley]

ive never had a hermie or even seen one, but can you just cut of its balls and let the rest bud? :drool:

[gorilla]

You can, stonin stanley. But it's risky, IMO.

Last grow I said to (newbish) self: So, this hermie already started making male balls. But I'll still yeild more pot in the end if I keep it.

I kept it for about a week longer than I should have, and I had a harvest filled with seeds.

As far as cutting off every male sack I see? I guess you can do that as well, Like CB suggested. I just don't feel like going through the trouble this time for one plant. Especially when this plant probably wouldn't do as well as the others, because half of it's energy was going to making balls that I kept chopping.

Not to mention.. The balls are hard to find sometimes. ( At least for me. ) And full body inspections twice a day on every plant is time consuming.


I'm going to try and get a camera today to use. Who knows, maybe another plant will hermie and I can snap a picture of it. :mad: Should have sooner, would have been good pics, But i'm not risking harvesting a boatload of seeds again.

[drumin]

Sorry to hear about them twins bro, I was lookin forward to seeing what they would do... I guess we know what they will do now eh? :rolleyes:

[Dooby420]

G - I got some hermies in my grow too and didnt realize until they had released some pollen... it sucks but dont feel bad bro, we in the same boat :shrug:

-DooB

[tHEaNIMICnEEDLE]

hermies EWWWWWWW!

thats gross, its like a transgender but a plant...

[gorilla]

Hey drumin.. not much to look foward to from the twins. They're part of my trim pile now, and one day they'll help me make up some oil or hash or something. Let's see if I can keep the bag of leaves from getting MOLDY AS FUCK this time, like I've done twice before. I swear.. This weed...

Wait, what was I talking about? :rolleyes:


Dooby. Not the worst boat to be in. :p We could be totally growless, or for some reason sinking.. Wouldn't mind so much if I didn't go through the same shit last time. At least i've kept my weedage seed-free thus far.

Hey tan,
hermies EWWWWWWW!

thats gross, its like a transgender but a plant...
:slap:hahahahaha

[gorilla]

Hey, what's behind that plastic?
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5149&stc=1&d=1153880967

Whoa! Which one is the biggest?
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5150&stc=1&d=1153880967

Nice plants. What do the buds look like?
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5151&stc=1&d=1153880967

That's gonna be a nice cola someday.

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5152&stc=1&d=1153880967

:cool: I've included a closer shot at the big sativa,
And a shot of a new fan that's really doing it's job.

[gorilla]

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5159&stc=1&d=1153914490

[drumin]

Nice... :mmmm:

[gorilla]

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5165&stc=1&d=1153969142

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5166&stc=1&d=1153969142

http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5167&stc=1&d=1153969142

:broke:

[CB]

look'n real good in the garden G-mang :D

been work'n for hours try'n to find that last pick for ya but damn if i know where its at :p

still look'n tho

:broke:

grow on

[gorilla]

thanks CB, respect your opinion mucho. :kewl:

:beat:

Oh.. Notice the super clear veining in the leaf? Pretty much every leaf grown since flower has been like that. It looks super-healthy to me, but i'm just curious: that's not a sign of a deficiency, that happens to look really cool, is it?

still looking for that pic.. :x:

[CB]

Oh.. Notice the super clear veining in the leaf? Pretty much every leaf grown since flower has been like that. It looks super-healthy to me, but i'm just curious: that's not a sign of a deficiency, that happens to look really cool, is it?



whats the npk ratio of ya bloom ferts?

[gorilla]

2-2-2 = bloom fert

has all the ingredients on the bottle if you care at all. :D

I add 1 tablespoon per gallon of Bloom, and 1 tablespoon per gallon of Necessary plant energy. ( No NPK, just organic plant acids? lol. )

[CB]

1-2-3 works good for flower'n ;)

and 3-2-1 for veg :D

and a shot or 2 of 0-50-30 mid way flower:eek:

grow on

[gorilla]

Not too sure what that has to do with the leaf...

Not too sure why this company made their bloom fert 2-2-2.

I guess there must be reasons for both? :dunce:


btw:
Nute regiment is as follows.
Veg = Grow, 2-1-2.
Two weeks prior to bloom: X, 2-1-2.
Initial flower and stretch = Bloom, 2-2-2.
After 3 weeks flower = X, 2-1-2.
All the while using Nesecary plant energy.

[ndnguy]

Later in bloom i drop the N, no need for it I figure and might go with a 16/15 P-K and a bud enhancer. Also ran this last run and it will stay in my garden as I know it jumped my yield 30%+, never had colas that big till I used co2 and with the yield increase I figured that alone covered the cost, had extra meds to give to some peeps who needed them. ...www.co2boost.com.

[gorilla]

Hey Ndn. Thanks for the tips. I'm going to pick up some "Beastie Bloomz" by fox farms to use as a bud enhancer. heard good things.

Starting now, i'm going to show off one plant per update. Might be every few days or every week, But i figure by the time i'm done showing off 6 plants, i'll be close to harvest.

This week, we're looking at my monster plant. Call it that cause ever since veg this plant was on a growth spurt. At almost 3 weeks into flower it's finally stopped stretching and focusing on bud growth. From the looks of things, she's going to give me 4 nice big colas. Colas look very similiar to the last sativa I grew, which turned out to be big suckers.

On with the show. Here's the whole plant, at almost 40 inches.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5194&stc=1&d=1154141427

One step closer..
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5195&stc=1&d=1154141427

Shot of one of the colas. - Can't wait.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5196&stc=1&d=1154141427

And, a bud lower down on the plant.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5197&stc=1&d=1154141427

thanks for sticking with me. :share:

[dredank]

yeah G lookin good man;)

good lookin growth already, looks like shes gonna have some long FAT colas mmmmm:D

bring on more pics:D

peace

[gorilla]

The thing that gets me, and i've said this before, is the EXTREME difference in health between my plants this time and last time. Even the stems where the budsites are, are at least twice as thick as they were. Actually, the colas on that plant look like they're going to be twice as thick AND long. :D

You keep drooling and I'll have to beat you away with them. :halol:

[drumin]

Nice lookin plant bro! :high5:

Do you have it staked up?

Why do you think this harvest will be better, did you do a lot different from your last grow? :gthumb:

[gorilla]

They're staked up with normal old plant stakes, find 'em anywhere like $2 for 20.
I'm doing quite a bit different than last time. Mostly just from learning the ropes!

I mean.. simple shit. Last time, for one, i was overwatering.. I realize this now. Two, my plants were starving big time! No nutrients to speak of other than the "osmocote" ::spits:: in the scotts potting soil, and water. I transplanted my plants from 16oz cups, to 1 gallon containers, about a week before flowering last time. They finished their lives in those 1 gallon pots, much too small if you ask me. The crazy thing about that is, upon inspection of the roots after I killed the plants, The roots had hardly even reached the sides of the container. SHITTTTYYY. This time, Drumin, 1 day after I transplanted into the 2 gallon grow bags, I saw roots coming out of the bottom. Took 1 day. Beautiful thing.

Simple shit, Like I said. I had the light hanging the wrong way last time. ( Thanks.. William Q I think, for noticing that. ) The poly on the walls wasn't nice and flat like it is this time.

So all In all, My plants are being fed better, they have more room to stretch their feet, they have better light distribution ( From a better source, I upgraded the bulb. ) and i'm not drowning them every other day. :cool:

Dude, the genetics i'm using are MY own genetics. So obviously, they weren't breed with great care or intelligence. I figure, genetically speaking, they can't be any better than they started off. However, I already have crystals forming all over the fan leaves, where in last grow that was unheard of. :)

3 weeks into flower baby.

[gorilla]

As you can see, she took root well.. But her top growth suffered. I believe it was light burn, but by the time I fixed it, it was too late. All that's left is a healthy, and growing, fan leaf.. And a burnt/crispy sideshoot.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5204&stc=1&d=1154191204

I threw it back in the garbage... maybe that will help. :rolleyes:

[gorilla]

Rigged up something to make it a bit easier and quicker to water the girls.
Pretty basic, easy to build. I sit the plants on top of a plastic tote with a metal shelf sitting on top of it, so the water leaks right through. The only thing you can't see in the picture, is a rubber washer and a plastic bolt on the inside of the bucket, holding the hose-valve-thing in place. :D I'm not a plumber. hahaha.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5211&stc=1&d=1154262936
Please be careful, your children may drown in one of these.

[drumin]

So you just fill the bucket with water and use the hose to water as if you were outside using a garden hose?:dunce:

[reubeni]

Yo bro does that irigator work on demand got a timer or auto-regulator or is it only manual?:)

[gorilla]

Hahahaha. No, it's not timed, and it's not automatic. God, I wish!
I use it like a regular garden hose.

But it does allow me to guage how fast the water comes out, and it's majorly convenient. That's all.

BTW. Go ahead and build one. Good science experiment. Even with the valve fully open, if the lid is on you won't get hardly any water to come out. However, lift the lid a tiny bit, and the water will rush out. Know why? ;)

[reubeni]

Hahahaha. No, it's not timed, and it's not automatic. God, I wish!
I use it like a regular garden hose.

But it does allow me to guage how fast the water comes out, and it's majorly convenient. That's all.

BTW. Go ahead and build one. Good science experiment. Even with the valve fully open, if the lid is on you won't get hardly any water to come out. However, lift the lid a tiny bit, and the water will rush out. Know why? ;)

Ok I see, yeah with the lid on the air can not get in so there is a vacume no air in=no water out.
But who fills the bucket has it got an inlet autovalve because if not you have to use the same energy to fill it manualy:D

[gorilla]

I'm the same person who fills this bucket as the kitty litter bucket I was using before.

However, this holds more, and the lid closes tight to prevent spillage. Not only that, but i'm not sitting on the ground scooping water out like quart by quart to water my plants. Using a hose with a simple left = fast, right = slow/off valve is much easier.

I dont know. Didn't realize it would sound so stupid to you guys. :D
Wasn't meaning to make it sound like it was a great invention. Just that it doesnt leak at all, and it works; so i'm proud of myself in that respect.

And you're right about the vaccum bini. I love things like that. :)

[drumin]

Don't sound stupid at all bro, I think it's a much cleaner and easier way of watering your grow. Using a light weight hose instead of dipping into a bucket... how many waterings do you get out of it before you have to refill?

When winter comes and I move to growing indoors only I think I'll make on of them. :idea:

[gorilla]

Just one feeding drumin, with like a gallon or so of water left over.

Some concept could be done with a rubbermaid, or something larger than the 5 gallon bucket. It would need to be elevated at least a little bit higher than the pots you're watering. Anyhow, I like to add nutrients one feeding, and only water ( With "necessary plant energy" lol ) the next. etc.

[drumin]

I wonder if it would be useful to add a fish tank airator to that bucket, then you could airate your water over night before giving it to your plants. Oxygenated water... can't hurt. :hmmmm:

[gorilla]

can't hurt, but I never really understood the theory behind this. Isn't the water only oxygenated when an air-bubbler is turned on? Correct me if i'm wrong, but after the water is sucked out of the hose, or poured onto the plants, what about it is oxygenated? We're not carbonating the water here.

Anyhow, that's my rant about that. I would oxygenate the water if my nutes needed it. These nutes, i mix in right before I use the water. So no need for a bubbler.

[gorilla]

needed to upload this somewhere.. thought i might as well show it off. just a pic.

[CB]

thought i might as well show it off.

:bananna:

[AzGrowa]

nice looking grow there bro.
Just like yer mates in the jungle.... KISS
gonna have to find one of those buckets and rig somethin like that up myself just for the swampcooler.
A 6-gallon bucket would fill that swamper up three time before havin to be refilled. As it is I have to fill that cooler about once every 12 hours when it's on high, with a 1- gallon jug....
Who said gorillas aren't intelligent?

And I still think it should be GRO-illa :D

[gorilla]

Hey everyone. Been a few days since I posted, but been a rough couple'a days here. Spent 'em hurting in the hospital, some fucked up ROGUE problem. Usually only happens to kids under the age of 3 or really old people. Haha. Doctors were telling me: I dont know what to think, i've only ever seen this in textbooks. - Riiight... that makes me feel comfortable. -- In any respect, i'm getting better. Thanks doctors! :p

But it's time for another plant porn-shoot.
Here's the whole plant, twice.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5275&stc=1&d=1154730083http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5276&stc=1&d=1154730083

A closer cola shot.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5277&stc=1&d=1154730124

And a lower budshot.
http://www.homegrownbud.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5278&stc=1&d=1154730124

Hopefully much more to come! :eek: :D

[CB]

say G-mang,

hope ya feel'n better bro :D

nice porn piccys ya got mang ;)

grow on

[drumin]

Sorry to hear that you're either a sick -3 year old or a sick really old dude... :broke:

Hey, plant looks sweet! :beat:

[gorilla]

figured i'd poison the plants a bit. :rolleyes:

first dose of beastie bloomz today, at a light 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. Next feed i will up the dose a bit, and that will be all for the P+K.

don't feel a need to include a pic as my last post was so recent. Will post a pic in a few days to show how much they yellow from this.

BTW- thanks CB and drumin for the kind words. it sucks to be 3. :D

[gorilla]

they didn't yellow up and die like I figured. took it all in stride in fact, but the buds seemed to have fattened up quite a bit over the past few days. :cool:

For plants half-way + in flower, should you continue to slam with nutes, or gradually lessen before flush? I'm curious if lowering the fert during feedings will be the only way to drop the N, but I do not want plant performance to suffer.

[drumin]

I'd like to know that info as well!;)

[gorilla]

Sorry no pics. Don't have a camera ATM, and I promise I will back all of the info i'm going to blabber out in this post with pics at a later date.

I am unsure whether some (not all) of my plants are "bolting" or going through "multiple blooms".

Bolting, in my knowlege, happens when a plant is either too close to a hot light source, or recieved too heavy of a feeding.

I straight up dont know what multiple blooms are, But I picture them to be a plant producing a 'growth spurt' during a phase of bloom-life where they wouldn't normally do this.

Here's what happening to my plants specifically. One, a few weeks ago, "Bolted" Big time. - By now, though, it has totally filled in and has more or less added about 25% to the length of the cola.

The other in question, started bolting after my heavy p/k feedings. This is my shortest plant, and while at the time it was directly under my light source, it was actually further away than all of the other plants. Literally every bud on this plant has "bolted". However, they too are starting to fill in and to me: It looks as if in a few weeks i would have never known it happened if i didn't see it myself. Overall, I believe this may take away from the girth of the plant but as a said earlier, add about 25% total length to each of the buds.

Is what I am describing a "multiple" bloom, put into action by the heavy p/k feeding of Beastie Bloomz? Is this literally just the product in action. If it is, well folks lemme tell you it works. :p

I fed every plant the same water mixed with beastie bloomz, and not every one "bolted" like this. In the end, I'm not sure if this will add to my overall yield or simply give me longer, thinner, and actually fluffier buds. Obviously i'm hoping for choice 1.

Sorry for no pics again. - Next time. Peace - G.

edit. btw... reason I even consider 'multiple blooms' in the first place is because I see that term used on high phosphorous plant nutrients all of the time. - 0-50-30 is pretty high.

[CB]

Is what I am describing a "multiple" bloom, put into action by the heavy p/k feeding of Beastie Bloomz? Is this literally just the product in action. If it is, well folks lemme tell you it works. :p

I fed every plant the same water mixed with beastie bloomz, and not every one "bolted" like this. In the end, I'm not sure if this will add to my overall yield or simply give me longer, thinner, and actually fluffier buds. Obviously i'm hoping for choice 1.



choice one I believe.... just hit mine with there first dose of beastie bloomz at 1/4 tsp/gal

my white whillow and k2 really took off but not the white russian

last go around with the WR i saw huge spurts in growth tho
:shrug: gonna pump a bit more to em yet :eek:

pheno geans perhapes....

will post pics up in my GJ

grow on G

[pck]

nice going ill be watching this one

hi

[gorilla]

choice one I believe....

pheno geans perhapes....



Thanks CB. Good point. I probably could have fed a few of them more as well, and I considered it more than once; but figuring as i'm a first timer with the Beastie Bloomz i thought it best to take it easy.

I'll be keeping an eye out to see how yours do.

[reubeni]

they didn't yellow up and die like I figured. took it all in stride in fact, but the buds seemed to have fattened up quite a bit over the past few days. :cool:

For plants half-way + in flower, should you continue to slam with nutes, or gradually lessen before flush? I'm curious if lowering the fert during feedings will be the only way to drop the N, but I do not want plant performance to suffer.

I think its a trade off between flavour and bulk I always go for taste but some go for bulk a bit like MacDonald's and a proper restaurant:rolleyes: grow on

[drumin]

Beastie Bloom eh? I'll have to look into that for my WW when flowering comes. :electric:

[gorilla]

Sorry no updates.

I may not have a camera for the remainder of my grow, and i sure don't right now.

Plants are fine. Done with nutes, only water here on out. Thanks for the tips/advice about how to finish them up: I'm going to go for taste as well reubini. Been lessening the doasges, and now i'm going like 2 or 3 feedings only water then flush.

Two weeks or so more left to go.

[drumin]

Did you bash yer camera? Damn monkey...:bananna:

[gorilla]

One plant started to hermie on me, little nanners dancing on every bud. :bananna:

I killed the sucker. :D hanging up to dry now, almost dry actually, and like 50% trimmed.

Low yield on this girl, probably only like a half Z. Better than no weed. :rolleyes:]

Buds arent fully smokeable yet, but getting there. Will smoke fine in a bowl after a few hits, or will dry out fine in like an hour under an incandescent. ( I will use a light/heat to dry buds before i ever even think about a microwave. )
Anyhow, the smoke is decent. Wasnt expecting so much once i got like 3/4 through flower. I know the genetics and so far it's smoking the same as last time. Enough to get ya high but not really going to send you for a ride.

This is okay with me. Potency, flavor, and smoothness will come in time. ;)

[drumin]

I feel ya bro, my Indica in the pot hermied on me and I didn't catch it... so I got hermie seeds :(

I chopped it early too... today in fact.

I think the spider mites and a mistake when I went away for 4 days and forgot to water before I left caused it to stress and hermie. But like you said, a little weed is better than no weed (or buying weed).

[gorilla]

Flushing with molasses for a first.

About a teaspoon per gallon of water, and i'm giving each plant in a two gallon pot about 2 1/2 gallons of water.

Before I cut, i will probably run about 5 gallons of water through each plant at least once.

[drumin]

What's the molasses gonna do in a flush? :confused:

[gorilla]

Supposedly molasses will increase smoothness and taste of the buds/smoke.

Magical Molasses (https://svr52.ehostpros.com/%7Ehomegr52/forums/showthread.php?t=1380&highlight=molasses)

and

Lady's Post when she used molasses to flush (https://svr52.ehostpros.com/%7Ehomegr52/forums/showthread.php?t=396&page=4&highlight=molasses) like halfway down. you'll see a pic

do a search on HGB for "molasses", there are a few more threads which discuss it including 'grape juice'.

[drumin]

Cool, thanks G. I thought it just food for feeding the microbes, adding a little P and helping Chelate synth nutes.

[gorilla]

Cool, thanks G. I thought it just food for feeding the microbes, adding a little P and helping Chelate synth nutes.

What do you mean 'Chelate synthetic nutes'? I'm having a hard time understanding that part...

Chelation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chelation (from Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) χηλή, chelè, meaning claw) is the process of reversible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible) binding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding) (complexation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_%28chemistry%29)) of a ligand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligand), the complexing agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexing_agent), chelant, chelator or chelating agent (also known as sequestering agents), to a metal ion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion), forming a metal complex, the chelate.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation

As far as what molasses does during a flush, Drumin. Your speculation is as good as mine. The only plant that is not getting the molasses flush is the one I had to chop with no flush at all, so, I won't even be able to give a good representation for how it works. - Still worth a shot. :p

[AzGrowa]

I take it by now that
1. you harvested and didn't tell us
2. ya harvested and yer still buzy with the trim
3. ya getting ready to harvest and ya ain't told us yet
4. (God forbid) ya got ripped off
5. (wouldn't wish this on anybody) ya got busted....
1,2,3 are acceptable answers.....

[gorilla]

I harvested, already trimmed....

got too stoned..

forgot all about this here journal

:share: the green is good, all. :)