1st gro

[Dooby420]

Hi everyone, today i started my first grow and id say it going good so far.
germinated the seeds for 2 days, taproots grew like crazy, stuck him in styrofoam cups with sta-green potting mix, i'll hopefully transplant them in a week.
my question is would they be able to get enough light in a green house with 8 foot long flueorescent tubes about 3 feet above? its a fairly decent sized greenhouse for annuals and perrenials so i figure it should be ok for herbals?

[Cranky]

you buddy nice to see yas up and running...need any help just shout,always sombody that can help;) also check out the grow guide.good place to start ;)

as to your Q....when you say green house...as in out doors???just wondering what the flouros are for thats all? maybe start um indoors under flouros and then put out maybe say 2 weeks after.let the sun do the rest;)

cranky

[Dooby420]

the greenhouse is indoors, but its pretty standard to any other greenhouses, humidifiers/dehumidifers, temp control, etc etc. it also has "sun windows" on the ceiling that can open to allow the room to fill with sunlight during the day. i believe the fluerecent lights are just standard. another important fact i forgot to mention is that there are many "exotic" plants that are grown in here such as: passion flower, jasmines, several different types of annuals and perennials, herbs (mints, chives, rosemarry, etc.) i guess you could call it a multi-purpose greenhouse :D

[ShadowYeti]

"my question is would they be able to get enough light in a green house with 8 foot long flueorescent tubes about 3 feet above?"

Short answer , No.... at 3 feet above the floros are pretty much usless for Cannabis, floros need to be almost touching the plant to give it enough lumens....unless they are T-5's and then they still need to be closer. If you need to add suplimental light...and this time of year you shouldn't...I recommend going with a HID(HPS or Metal halide....SON Argro or Hortilux of possible.
The amount of light your plant receives is directly related to it's yield/flower density.
By your two posts I can tell you probably have more questions than I can answer in posts so here is a link to Overgrows old Grow Faq. Check out the lighting section, all you need to know is in there. Enjoy:)

[Dooby420]

Well as you can tell i dont know much about lighting but i heard people talking about high intensity discharge lights before. Would an example of these be flood lights that take about 5-10 minutes to charge? or am i thinking of something else :(

[Cranky]

think more along the lines of street lamps...thier hps(high pressure sodium)lamps.the ones your on about are them halogen bulbs(security lights)..no good for growing.

i have a Q for yas thats bugging me...how comes ya got a greenhouse indoors?im kinda lost there as to what ya mean?

cranky

[tHEaNIMICnEEDLE]

yeah flos need to be at LEAST 8 inches form the plant to give them light

try ot get them within 3 inches from the bulb for effective results

especially for seedlings, they will stretch and eventually bend form overstretching and you will have a lanky seedling :(

good luck and any q's the peeps here will be able to help as best they can

peace

[ShadowYeti]

WTF
how is grow info off topicCB?

"Reason: removed link to off topic forum "

[CB]

WTF
how is grow info off topicCB?

"Reason: removed link to off topic forum "

say shadowyeti,

first link from there took me to a hard drug site ????

PM me the link and i will double check....

[Dooby420]

woot this makes day 3 and three of the little babies just sprouted their heads out the soil! :teef:

oh and another question: is it bad to throw 2 seeds in a pot together or is this okay?

[Greenmachine]

woot this makes day 3 and three of the little babies just sprouted their heads out the soil! :teef:

oh and another question: is it bad to throw 2 seeds in a pot together or is this okay?

Best to give them their own individual space to grow Doob, that way you can transplant them to bigger pots without the worry of root damage, more than one seed to a container means intertwined roots, means root damage when you part them for potting on, and you don't want to stunt them or put them behind on nutrient uptake with damaged roots especially when they are so young and only have a small root system developed. Oh and try not to use those little peat pots ever. They dry out an hour after you've watered them (only a slight exaggeration)

[Dooby420]

Ahh, well i only paired 4 seeds, 2 each in pots. i have about 6 more planted individually. right now im using this soil called Sta-Green potting mix, its pretty good soil and not pre-ferted. they are ceramic pots about as big as the parkay buckets of butter you can buy from the grocery store. hopefully those seeds that are paired wont turn out too bad :(

[ice#1]

if more than 1 sprouts then just transplant after 2 or 3 week i do it all the time with clones as i put 4 per 20oz cup so i save room i've only lost 1 or 2 in the last year and i am not all that gentel with them when i do transplant them

[ice#1]

heres a pic

[Dooby420]

okay well im not that worried about it now, thanks ice :D

[Dooby420]

Day 5

Okay so I checked on the babies today. They have started growing the very first set of leaves (cotyldon sp?) and the first set of actual leaves, i wish i had a digi camera or something to take pics and show you guys but explaining it will have to do for now. i think im gonna go ahead and buy that 175-watt Mh from InsideSun. (http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?action=item&id=433&prevaction=category&previd=2&prevstart=0)

So I know its early but at this point this is pretty much average rate of growth right?
By the way, right now they are in cups sitten by the window ;)
They get good sunlight since they are small right now but obviously I have to prepare for when they get bigger :D

[Dooby420]

DAY 10

Well, the babies are coming along nicely. ;)

They are roughly about 3-4 inches tall, a slight bit of stretching, but nothing too major. :D

They are starting to grow the leaves on the 2nd node (I guess 5 fingers, right? :p )

Anyway, my damn light system hasn't come in the mail yet, so hopefully they won't stretch too much further. Any more stretching and they will topple over. :mad:

I'll follow up in a couple days or so. :)

Smoke till ya choke :rasta:
-DooB

[Cranky]

say matey...they will keep stretching.cant ya take one of those floros down and have it like 1 inch above?

they would do alot better like.

cranky

[Dooby420]

say matey...they will keep stretching.cant ya take one of those floros down and have it like 1 inch above?

they would do alot better like.

cranky

hehe cranky im useing the sun right now as my light, im waiting for this damn 400w-mh to come in the mail but its taking its sweet time :mad:

I think they are stretching because they get roughly 7-8 hours of sun (I have to move the cups to a safer location b/c of people and such)

Once I get the light they should start to bush out. :D

By the way - since they are stretching would it be wise to put a small oscillating fan around them? I figure it would stimulate the stems to get a bit thicker.:rolleyes:

-DooB

[Cranky]

ya bro..that be cool...just dont have it blowing directly on um...just have it so that they are gently moving/flapping about...

whatch the temps to;) (not sure whta they are).

hope that light comes soon:) .

cranky

[Pinball Wizard]

I was a nervous wreck, waiting for my 400hps system to arrive. Had to make do with 4ft floros-one inch away in meantime. It might have been a blessing in return, I might have fried the seedlings, early on! Spacing with big lights can be very tricky! (always use fans)

[Dooby420]

Thanks for all the tips guys :teef: